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Post#61 » by JapanAir21 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:57 am

Even if he ISN'T that good, why are we complaining, we got him for virtually free.
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Post#62 » by JES12 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:13 am

tsherkin wrote:If he's worse than Diop, then you're really not much better off than you are now, that much is clear.
And neither is our payroll and we still have an open roster spot.
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Post#63 » by Sken » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:23 am

All right everybody, we have a veteran minimum backup C. He'll make less than Juwan Howard, so how do you substantiate those kinds of expectations?

If he fouls out of 1 game, we got what we wanted as long as he doesn't do it like Bubba Wells.
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Post#64 » by tsherkin » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:23 am

JES12 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

And neither is our payroll and we still have an open roster spot.


Well, it's definitely a low-risk scenario, that is true.
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Post#65 » by your_dallas_mavericks » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:29 am

Looks like this thread just got stickied!
If we could just close games with Luka, Kyrie, Green, Maxi, and Wood that'd be great...
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Post#66 » by JES12 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:49 am

your_dallas_mavericks wrote:Looks like this thread just got stickied!


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Post#67 » by DDansby123 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:53 am

If you look at Magloire's per minute rebounds and blocks over the past 3 seasons, they haven't fallen off at all. In his two seasons prior to this year, his per-minute production was pretty much identical...solid, but nothing great. This season, his TOs and fouls are up, while the shooting percentages are all down. To me, those are all concentration and focus issues...the tell-tale signs of an unhappy player, IMO.

Since he obviously wants to be in Dallas, and is now on a winning team in a great environment, I expect those numbers to improve. I wouldn't doubt at all if he puts up numbers fairly similar to his 06-07 numbers (roughly 6 and 6 on 50% shooting in about 20 MPG).
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Post#68 » by tsherkin » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:55 am

DDansby123 wrote:If you look at Magloire's per minute rebounds and blocks over the past 3 seasons, they haven't fallen off at all.


No, his rebounding hasn't and his blocks have been steady but they have fallen off from where they used to be, at least blocks. I carefully avoided mentioning his rebounding in that regard because he's mostly been good there.

Since he obviously wants to be in Dallas, and is now on a winning team in a great environment, I expect those numbers to improve. I wouldn't doubt at all if he puts up numbers fairly similar to his 06-07 numbers (roughly 6 and 6 on 50% shooting).


I can see that, maybe, if Kidd helps him a lot. We'll see. It'd be very good for the playoffs if Magloire became a really nasty bench center for the Mavs and it'd be amazing if he could challenge Ericka for the starting spot.
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Post#69 » by DDansby123 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:02 am

tsherkin wrote:No, his rebounding hasn't and his blocks have been steady but they have fallen off from where they used to be, at least blocks. I carefully avoided mentioning his rebounding in that regard because he's mostly been good there.


All we need from Magloire is for him to give us 15-20 MPG of the production he's averaged over the past 3 years. That's my point.

I can see that, maybe, if Kidd helps him a lot. We'll see. It'd be very good for the playoffs if Magloire became a really nasty bench center for the Mavs and it'd be amazing if he could challenge Ericka for the starting spot.


He'd have to get back to his All-Star production to even approach Dampier. "Ericka" is actually a pretty damn solid center.
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Post#70 » by rambo_ortega » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:29 am

good pick up guys. great move by filling diop's void by signing another 7 footer who works hard and was an all-star years ago.
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Post#71 » by JES12 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:31 am

DDansby123 wrote:He'd have to get back to his All-Star production to even approach Dampier. "Ericka" is actually a pretty damn solid center.
Damn! Everything since the Harris-Kidd debate I agree with DDan completely. I think he has me on ignore and some of the stuff he says looks like my stuff (i.e. on this post, Magloire's '06-07 stats).
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Post#72 » by Hawaii » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:46 am

Good pick up for you guys, I think Magliore will fit in with the Mavs nicely. Moreso than some of the other teams that seemingly were interested in him. Couple of point, couple of boards, and a block here and there; looks like you made up for Diop nicely.
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Post#73 » by tsherkin » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:52 am

DDansby123 wrote:All we need from Magloire is for him to give us 15-20 MPG of the production he's averaged over the past 3 years. That's my point.


I get that, I'm just saying that it'd be nice if he provided more.

He'd have to get back to his All-Star production to even approach Dampier. "Ericka" is actually a pretty damn solid center.


Thppbbtt. Let's say we have a difference of opinions on that account. He's a very simple player who does simple things reasonably well and he's a good rebounder. He's an acceptable center.
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Post#74 » by sosafan70 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:27 am

This move has completed the Mavs roster. We are in it to win it this year.
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Post#75 » by Teffer10 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:39 am

sosafan70 wrote:This move has completed the Mavs roster. We are in it to win it this year.


One more move...sign Barry and let him start at SG.

At least nobody else will get him and he would give us some size and shooting at this position which is something that we have needed for quite some time.
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Post#76 » by JES12 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:41 am

tsherkin wrote:Thppbbtt. Let's say we have a difference of opinions on that account. He's a very simple player who does simple things reasonably well and he's a good rebounder. He's an acceptable center.
Nothing is new about that.

95% of non-mav fans don't want Dampier on their team
95% of Mav fans don't want Dampier to leave our team

Dampier and Brad Miller are the 2 best pick setters in the league, IMO (at least top 5). Dampier doesn't take stupid shots...63% last year and 64% this year on FG. He mans the middle of the lane preventing many drives to the lane and big men from running over the defense in middle. He blocks some of the ones that do get there. He is one of the better rebounders (7.2 in 23.5 min) in the league. He has many tap backs that don't always count as rebounds.

He is no all-star, but he does what we want him to do and is a perfect compliment to an offensive PF like Dirk. Like DDansby stated, "is actually a pretty damn solid center."

Edit: Since the Kidd addition, he is avg: 8.0 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 2.8 BPG, 1.0 APG & 0.8 SPG in 31.3 min.
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Post#77 » by JES12 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:43 am

sosafan70 wrote:This move has completed the Mavs roster. We are in it to win it this year.
I would still like to see them snag Cassell from Boston and if Barry is interested, we could waive Allen to make room as Dirk/Bass/JuHoward/Dampier/Magloire is fine up front.
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Post#78 » by f l u r p » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:08 am

The more I think about it, the happier I am with the way things have turned out. I think the Mavs have done some pretty shrewd positioning and made some good decisions here of late.
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Post#79 » by Teffer10 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:53 am

JES12 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I would still like to see them snag Cassell from Boston and if Barry is interested, we could waive Allen to make room as Dirk/Bass/JuHoward/Dampier/Magloire is fine up front.


I'm intrigued with Barry as a possible starter in the lineup with Kidd. If we offered him a little more money than everyone else and a starting position, I think we could get him.

Although old, he is still fairly athletic and a good shooter. Not a great defender, but certainly better than Terry.

I think I'd like Barry as a starter in the short term until a guy like Sebutis or Wright (or someone else) is able to fill that role. If there is enough left for Cassell, I'd go for that too.

I would cut Howard before Allen. At least Allen can score. I can't think of anything that Howard can do for us.
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Post#80 » by SaintofKillers » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:39 am

JES12 wrote:95% of non-mav fans don't want Dampier on their team
95% of Mav fans don't want Dampier to leave our team


I'll take this up a notch by saying that I'll only take TWO centers in the NBA (no 4/5's so guys like Duncan, Sheed, Amare are not included) over Dampier: Yao and Howard.

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