Can The Kings Still Make it???

[sackings916]

Yeah the Moore signing looks worse by the day. I dont think there would've been much of a difference w/o signing Moore and playing Kenny Thomas instead. 1st with the PT Thomas may have actually produced, or upped his value enough to where the Kings could've moved him with Bibby/Artest. Our big rotation is Miller,Moore,Hawes,Williams,Thomas. In the rebuilding phase I'd like to see Moore benched and have mainly a 3 man rotation with Miller,Hawes and Williams.

[RIPskaterdude]

Yeah the Moore signing looks worse by the day. I dont think there would've been much of a difference w/o signing Moore and playing Kenny Thomas instead. 1st with the PT Thomas may have actually produced, or upped his value enough to where the Kings could've moved him with Bibby/Artest. Our big rotation is Miller,Moore,Hawes,Williams,Thomas. In the rebuilding phase I'd like to see Moore benched and have mainly a 3 man rotation with Miller,Hawes and Williams.

Yeah, but understand that when we signed Moore, Petrie/the Maloofs were hoping for a HEALTHY team and thinking that with a new coach/system, we would have a chance for the playoffs. Bibby got hurt AFTER we signed Moore...

[King Baller]

No, we are done for the year.

Yep the slim window of play off opportunity closed when the Kings lost 4 of the last 5.

The Bibby trade is the opening move in Petrie's remaking of the Kings part two.

I guess us fans need to realise trades don't happen like in some fantasy league. You don't have some master plan where everything goes your way. Its more like a series of poker games with the other GM's. And to move a player sometimes you have to discount the price, cause its a buyers market. Go Petrie

KB

[King Baller]

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Yeah, but understand that when we signed Moore, Petrie/the Maloofs were hoping for a HEALTHY team and thinking that with a new coach/system, we would have a chance for the playoffs. Bibby got hurt AFTER we signed Moore...

Well Hell, Bibby, Artest and Martin all got hurt after the Moore signing. Who was a free agent last summer that the Kings could have signed for the same money as Moore?

KB

[King Baller]

Yeah the Moore signing looks worse by the day. I dont think there would've been much of a difference w/o signing Moore and playing Kenny Thomas instead. 1st with the PT Thomas may have actually produced, or upped his value enough to where the Kings could've moved him with Bibby/Artest. Our big rotation is Miller,Moore,Hawes,Williams,Thomas. In the rebuilding phase I'd like to see Moore benched and have mainly a 3 man rotation with Miller,Hawes and Williams.

Comparing KT and Moore is apple & oranges. The defensive assignments Moore handles pretty well KT cannot do. Starting KT puts more pressure on Brad at the defensive end. Don't discount the value of having 7 foot tall Mikki next to Brad. Brad dropping the weight, staying healthy and playing with Mikki all contributed to Brad having a good year.

KB

[Bibbinator]

Artest thinks the Kings can win a championship...

What a homer.. lol

[deNIEd]

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Yeah because players are robots and developing a winning mentality does nothing.

Like SacKingzz said, if Petrie/FO already knew that Bibby/Artest/Miller/Thomas/Shareef will not be here past the deadline, or will be traded during the summer, then for them to win, it does nothing.

But the young players that will be here long term, it does mean something. But, I'd much rather have the game on the line, and have Martin, Hawes, Garcia on the floor, and having them determine the fate. Chances are that will help our losing, but it devlopes the youngs a lot more. You play the young players, our chances of winning, greatly decreases, but they get better, and thats all that matters

[realfung]

this year is just too intense

[thebiggesthomer]

Tue 19 @ Portland W
Wed 20 vs Atlanta W
Fri 22 @ Charlotte W
Sun 24 @ Orlando L
Wed 27 @ Atlanta W
Fri 29 @ Dallas L
Tue 26 @ Miami W
March Opponent
Sun 02 vs Miami W
Tue 04 vs LA Lakers W
Wed 05 @ LA Clippers W
Fri 07 vs Minnesota W
Sun 09 @ LA Lakers L
Thu 13 vs Portland W
Sat 15 @ Phoenix L
Sun 16 vs Toronto W
Tue 18 vs Golden State W
Fri 21 @ San Antonio L
Sat 22 @ Memphis W
Mon 24 @ Houston W
Wed 26 vs Memphis W
Fri 28 vs Washington L
Sun 30 @ Seattle W
April Opponent
Tue 01 vs Houston W
Thu 03 vs LA Clippers W
Sat 05 @ Denver L
Sun 06 vs LA Lakers W
Tue 08 @ Golden State L
Fri 11 vs Portland W
Sat 12 vs New Orleans W
Mon 14 vs San Antonio L
Tue 15 @ LA Lakers L

20-11 WOULD PUT US AT 43-38 WOULD THAT BE ACCPETABLE???( IS IT REALISTIC???)

So far its gonna according to plan

[Smills91]

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So far its gonna according to plan

No you have us losing to the Lakers, that's UNACCEPTABLE.

[Guy986]

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So far its gonna according to plan

I think your prediction is very reasonable. Unfortunately 43-38 is only gonna be good for the 9th or 10th spot in the west.

[deNIEd]

lol, that very likely will be the 11th seed in the west

[SacTown Kings]

With Yao out for the year it makes things a little more interesting. I can see Denver losing a lot of games because their schedule is tough and they suck (have talent but I don't think their team meshes well). And now with Yao out I can see Houston losing a lot of games. I think we will definetly surpass Portland and if we can get to 45 I think it will be close.

[SacKingZZZ]

If the Rockets go at worst .500 or even a little less they should be in the running for that 8th seed. I think they can at least go .500 from here on out. We are about 2-3 losses out of the playoff picture all together. I am going to say minimum 48 wins to get that 8th seed. We aren't even .500 yet!!! And then even if we get there we are still 10 wins back.

Like I have said a million times. Time to start focusing on the youth and building for the future.

[BMiller52]

If the Rockets go at worst .500 or even a little less they should be in the running for that 8th seed. I think they can at least go .500 from here on out. We are about 2-3 losses out of the playoff picture all together. I am going to say minimum 48 wins to get that 8th seed. We aren't even .500 yet!!! And then even if we get there we are still 10 wins back.

Like I have said a million times. Time to start focusing on the youth and building for the future.

Agreed.

[pillwenney]

I still think that while we won't make the playoffs, that it still sends the wrong message to the team to give up until it is literally impossible.

[SacKingZZZ]

Give up? I don't call giving into reality and doing something that will hopefully make you better in the future, because we are clearly not a team built entirely for the present, giving up.

On a side note, there was an article in the Bee today about John Salmons and his disappearing act. He seems to be fading back into his shell. To bad too, we had ourselves set up pretty well for the future with Matin/Salmons making pretty much dirt cheap money, carrying the scoring load that the other young guys could have fit very well with IMO. Oh well, maybe next year. That or they finally snap to pretty soon.

[pillwenney]

Give up? I don't call giving into reality and doing something that will hopefully make you better in the future, because we are clearly not a team built entirely for the present, giving up.

On a side note, there was an article in the Bee today about John Salmons and his disappearing act. He seems to be fading back into his shell. To bad too, we had ourselves set up pretty well for the future with Matin/Salmons making pretty much dirt cheap money, carrying the scoring load that the other young guys could have fit very well with IMO. Oh well, maybe next year. That or they finally snap to pretty soon.

The goal of the team should always be to win. That may not always be the best thing as far as getting a draft pick or whatever, but to say that, when we still have a chance at the playoffs, we're going to start giving games away is in fact giving up. I'm not saying it doesn't logically make more sense, I'm saying that the players won't see it that way because in order to keep one's competitive fire, I believe that they have to always think they have a chance, as long as it is possible. To tell them they don't is to give up.

[BMiller52]

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The goal of the team should always be to win. That may not always be the best thing as far as getting a draft pick or whatever, but to say that, when we still have a chance at the playoffs, we're going to start giving games away is in fact giving up. I'm not saying it doesn't logically make more sense, I'm saying that the players won't see it that way because in order to keep one's competitive fire, I believe that they have to always think they have a chance, as long as it is possible. To tell them they don't is to give up.

Eh I think it's the players that are giving up. I heard that Reggie was hella pissed in his post game comments on the radio. I didn't hear the comments but I guess he was unhappy with the effort and possibly might shake up the line up. If guys are giving up we might as well get the young guys some PT.

[SacKingZZZ]

If we are really trying to "compete" maybe it would be a good time to find a new combination of players then? Clearly this one isn't getting it done. So by that logic we are keeping ourselves in a rut because we pretty much know what this starting 5 is capable of. As is, something drastic would need to happen from within to remain competitive and the most drastic thing we could do at this point is shuffle things up from the inside.

But I still don't agree that should be the thought process behind it, but I will agree it is probably premature to go into full shutdown. However things need to progress towards that direction as soon as possible. Maybe Reggie already is, Hawes is starting to get a lot more PT. Shelden and Douby need to follow suit.