Why is Sean Williams on the bench?

wwtsm · Post #1 » by **wwtsm** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:45 am

I havent been able to watch any games, but Ive noticed Sean Williams has barely been playing. Why is this?

Serpo · Post #2 » by **Serpo** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:49 am

Because it seems like he hit the rookie wall . Makes a lot of mistakes and can't stay out of foul trouble .

SteveNets15 · Post #3 » by **SteveNets15** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:29 am

He should be starting over kristic.He would've blocked those easy layups turkoglu got 2

Post #4 » by **Rich Rane** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:31 pm

Because for some reason, Frank likes playing Nachbar at the 4.

NetsForce · Post #5 » by **NetsForce** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:03 pm

It's a combination of things...

1. Sean hasn't played as well as he has in the past.
2. Lawrence Frank loves going small by playing Nachbar or Hassell at the power forward position.
3. Krstic's return also naturally eats into some of Williams' miknutes.

MrDollarBills · Post #6 » by **MrDollarBills** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:38 pm

Krstic should start over Sean and he should be getting fed the rock..Frank is an idiot.

Sean has hit the wall and needs to be given a decent amt of minutes in the 12-15 range and give Swift a chance to produce...Frank is an idiot

Frank for some odd reasons likes to play Nachbar at PF where he is useless or play Hassel at PF when we have a plethora of bigs on the bench to fill that roll....Frank is an idiot

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EFF · Post #7 » by **EFF** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:07 pm

First of all. I dont think Boone is a 30+ minute guy. He's a energy/role player who is force fed his current role. Even more. Bokie. 34 MINUTES? Really? All these minutes at the expense of Diop, Krstic, Sean, maybe even stro.

And yeah half the reason sean doesn't play is his fault. He picks up stupid fouls. Like when the other team rebounds, he'll go ahead and smack someone's arm for no reason. and you hear the announcers informing us that "that is sean's 5th personal foul, and that puts the nets in the bonus. sean has all 5 fouls in the first quarter" He needs to get a clue if he wants to play.

jcrack32 · Post #8 » by **jcrack32** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:30 pm

Its really pretty simple...Frank plays Boki for the offense. He played 34 mins but he gave us 11 pts, 6 rebs, 5 assists, and only 2 turnovers. There isn't much more you can expect from a bench guy. He kept us in the first quarter hitting I think 3 threes.

I don't like when Frank plays Boki at the 4 but what other options do we have? When we need offense, we're not playing SWAT, or Hassel. Everyone all of a sudden is drinking the Swift kool-aid but come on now. Has Swift shown anything in his 8 years to make you think that he's gonna break out now? Boki is a terrible defender and he got burned last night...no argument from me there. Remember that if you gonna knock Boki, knock RJ too cause he got burned in the 4th quarter also.

PF has been the weakest position on this team since Martin left. With Kristic not giving us much now, there is more pressure to get points from the 4. Unless Kristic or somehow SWAT steps up, expect Boki to continue to get minutes at the 4 spot.

MrDollarBills · Post #9 » by **MrDollarBills** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:50 pm

Swift at least deserves to get some PT to at least give him a chance to show what he can do on THIS TEAM, i agree with that, to what extent is up for debate. I don't mind Boone's minutes. the kid plays hard and his defense against Dwight was good last night, he did better than i expected.

I think when Boki gets put in at the 4 it puts the team at a disadvantage defensively and offensively how many times have we seen Boki take advantage, or be put in a position to take advantage mind you, of a bigger, slower player on offense? When Devin gets his feet wet and starts breaking down the defenses, maybe that will change.

EFF · Post #10 » by **EFF** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:04 pm

jcrack32 wrote:Its really pretty simple...Frank plays Boki for the offense. He played 34 mins but he gave us 11 pts, 6 rebs, 5 assists, and only 2 turnovers. There isn't much more you can expect from a bench guy. He kept us in the first quarter hitting I think 3 threes.

Let's not ignore his 30 minute 4 pt performance the game before. He should have had 2 pts but they started fouling at the end. If his defense is gonna be so bad, his offense should make up for it. RJ's does and that's the difference. Bokie should play 16-22 minutes and at the 3. He also needs to settle down, and take open shots. That's why he was effective last year.

netsforever · Post #11 » by **netsforever** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:36 am

I don't have a problem with Sean Williams coming off the bench. But to play him 5 minutes?

He's proven that he needs more time than that!

And, all the Boone detractors can be quiet, I saw him play Howard very well on several defensive possessions tonight, PLUS make a few nice plays off of looks from Marcus.

BigWil17 · Post #12 » by **BigWil17** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:51 am

Yeah, i don't understand the reasoning that Boone shouldn't play a lot. If he's producing and defending well, sure he should.

And Sean not playing is mostly his own fault.

Serpo · Post #13 » by **Serpo** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:00 am

Sean Williams led a really bad chorus of "Happy Birthday" - that Simon guy would have shot him instead of just insulting him

Considering Seans voice that must have sounded awesome :clap:

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mack69 · Post #14 » by **mack69** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:12 pm

He is not playing well at all the speed of the players that he is guarding are not great but if you put your hand on them that is a foul.

He needs the off-season to work on his footwork and his balance.

The last part of this season I want to see stro play with VC and RJ.

Post #15 » by **jerseyjac** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:40 am

mack69 wrote:He is not playing well at all the speed of the players that he is guarding are not great but if you put your hand on them that is a foul.

He needs the off-season to work on his footwork and his balance.

The last part of this season I want to see stro play with VC and RJ.

might happen the way things looked tonight (and I was very happy to see Stro getting minutes)

...Sean has to be mentally tough while this team finds its rotations once again...he needs to take advantage of any minutes he gets and make an impact...if he does this, it will be difficult to keep him on the bench...

but we're a deep team...right now, anyone can get lost in the mix...but its a good problem to have and experience has a lot to do with the mistakes he makes and most likely who Frank may sway toward in our rotations...

rag-time4 · Post #16 » by **rag-time4** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:51 am

Speaking of fouls.... I noticed that Boone didn't pick up a single foul... big men not picking up fouls can be a sign of not playing hard defensively.

Boone and Krstic were killed by Diop and Swift in +/- .. I wouldn't be surprised if Diop and Swift are starting by the end of the year.

mack69 · Post #17 » by **mack69** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:36 pm

rag-time4 wrote:Speaking of fouls.... I noticed that Boone didn't pick up a single foul... big men not picking up fouls can be a sign of not playing hard defensively.

Boone and Krstic were killed by Diop and Swift in +/- .. I wouldn't be surprised if Diop and Swift are starting by the end of the year.

Again a dumb post!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boone has been our best big this year. Krstic needs more time.

stro4swift · Post #18 » by **stro4swift** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:07 pm

Well Boone got pnwed by Bogut yesterday but yeah he's usually this team's best big.

EFF · Post #19 » by **EFF** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:41 pm

Boone's...soft...productive...but soft

Krstic's D was just awful all around but he did have 8 points. Should have been 10 but he missed that open layup.

Depending on matchups..i wanna see stro and sean together. As long as the opposing team doesnt have a big bulky post up center which most teams don't, i wanna see it.

MrDollarBills · Post #20 » by **MrDollarBills** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:52 pm

Sean should get time but limited minutes, if he learns to be productive in limited time and not foul himself out of the game, then his time should increase. Until then, Boone, Diop, Krstic, and Swift should get the bulk of the minutes. Sean is a work in progress and teams have scouted him now so its not as easy as it was initially for him, i think the combined presence of Devin and Vince will open up a lot of baskets for him though. He'll get his shot! It's nothing to be ashamed about on his part, i think in the face of adversity this year Sean has really done a solid job for someone who really doesn't have a clue about how to really play basketball. We still need him as well to get in there at times and TOSS SHOTS INTO THE STANDS AND DUNK ON PEOPLE LIKE AN ANIMAL!!!!!!!!!! Right now though, let Stro get his shot and let Krstic work his way back into being the curly we know and love