Is anyone seriously worried about Cleveland?

cisco · Post #61 » by **cisco** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:56 pm

I admit I was really concerned about the Cavs before. But since they traded a couple of good players for mediocre ones, I feel a lot better about our chances against them now.

Post #62 » by **UGA Hayes** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:00 pm

I completely disagree with the sentiment that we shouldn't be worried about Cleveland. We just played them after a trade, with several of their key guys hurt, on the back end of a b-t-b.

For one thing they are a huge team physically, and could be the best rebounding team in the NBA. I've watched most of their games since the trade, and their spacing now is phenomenal, the only problem for them is that Wally hasn't been hitting his shots.

Also People are making the mistake of assuming that Hughes was their best perimeter defender. Nope. That would be Sasha Pavlovic who is a very good defender esp against the Kobe, Tmac, Pierce types.

If this team gets healthy they have a chance also to be the best 3 point shooting team in the NBA if not one of the best shooting teams period. With the exception Of Ben Wallace, the guys Cleveland has added should vault the Cavs from one of the worst FT shooting teams in the NBA to one of the best.

I could go on and on. I would rather play Detroit than Cleveland in the playoffs b/c I feel we match up much better with them. There is nothing Detroit does aside from avoid TOs that they do better than us.

BillessuR6 · Post #63 » by **BillessuR6** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:29 pm

Cavs are extremely vulnerable defensively when they play Wally at the 2. It is much easier to break down their defense that is why I don`t think they will be able to play him much.

I also love how they play 4 on 5 on offense when Wallace or Varejao are in the game. It just gives other team a better chance to double team Lebron.

The only player that worries me there is Smith. He is exactly what they need...

DorfonCeltics · Post #64 » by **DorfonCeltics** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:38 pm

bru87tr wrote:one thing that bugs me about LJ. he is the biggest cry babay when it coms to fouls.

+1

Lebron's a little bitch if you ask me. He's always whining to the refs and he gets the most preferential star treatment in the whole league. I hate how they never call fouls on him either to keep him in the game.

Don't get me wrong now, I absolutely love him at the player. He's definitely the best player in the league and the best since MJ but I can't stand is personality. At least MJ was likeable, LBJ is not.

tombattor · Post #65 » by **tombattor** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:17 pm

What the hell? Why wouldn't we be worried about the Cavs? They only have the best player in the league. Do I like our chances against the Cavs? Of course, but I like our chances against anyone this year.

Bill, were you at the game and some Cavs fans piss you off or something?

tombattor · Post #66 » by **tombattor** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:18 pm

UGA Hayes wrote:I completely disagree with the sentiment that we shouldn't be worried about Cleveland. We just played them after a trade, with several of their key guys hurt, on the back end of a b-t-b.

For one thing they are a huge team physically, and could be the best rebounding team in the NBA. I've watched most of their games since the trade, and their spacing now is phenomenal, the only problem for them is that Wally hasn't been hitting his shots.

Also People are making the mistake of assuming that Hughes was their best perimeter defender. Nope. That would be Sasha Pavlovic who is a very good defender esp against the Kobe, Tmac, Pierce types.

If this team gets healthy they have a chance also to be the best 3 point shooting team in the NBA if not one of the best shooting teams period. With the exception Of Ben Wallace, the guys Cleveland has added should vault the Cavs from one of the worst FT shooting teams in the NBA to one of the best.

I could go on and on. I would rather play Detroit than Cleveland in the playoffs b/c I feel we match up much better with them. There is nothing Detroit does aside from avoid TOs that they do better than us.

cisco · Post #67 » by **cisco** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:19 pm

DorfonCeltics wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

+1

Lebron's a little bitch if you ask me. He's always whining to the refs and he gets the most preferential star treatment in the whole league. I hate how they never call fouls on him either to keep him in the game.

Don't get me wrong now, I absolutely love him at the player. He's definitely the best player in the league and the best since MJ but I can't stand is personality. At least MJ was likeable, LBJ is not.

I think Lebron's whining comes from him being treating like a "King" by the league and the media. When he doesn't get the calls, he can't believe it (even if he doesn't deserve the call). Even his coach can't believe it when Lebron doesn't get a call whether he deserves it or not. Just look at Brown's behavior last night after Lebron fouled (was it Powe or Perk?... can't remember). What? Lebron doesn't foul people? :roll:

celticfan42487 · Post #68 » by **celticfan42487** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:18 pm

After watching Allen Iverson on the Sixers for the past decade... LeBron doesn't complain at all.

He may get the calls but he hardly complains for them. He'll look at the refs the wrong way every once in a while but he hardly gets into a whine every play fest.

And at least LeBron finishes his drives and is looking to score when he gets these calls. Instead of floping around and sticking his bug eyes out with emo screams of frustration.

GuyClinch · Post #69 » by **GuyClinch** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:52 pm

Well I think Lebron is just as bad as Iverson. For me the icing on the cake when his own coach got thrown out after he fouled Powe. Talk about enabling behaviour..

Pete

Post #70 » by **UGA Hayes** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:53 pm

Yeah I don't really think of LeBron much as a complainer, plus honestly only Shaq and Yao take more contact without always getting the foul.