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Bill Simmons' Perspective on the Kidd trade 

Post#1 » by netsforever » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:43 am

Q: I enjoyed your analysis of the Kidd trade from Dallas' end, but us Nets fans would like your views on the trade from New Jersey's side. How do you see it affecting the Nets in the long run?
-- Eric, Tampa, Fla.

SG: I thought the Nets got 90 cents on the dollar for Kidd. Maybe Devin Harris isn't an elite point guard, but he's locked up in a reasonable contract (five years, $43 million) and there's an good chance he could thrive without Avery Johnson (the biggest control freak in the league) looking over his shoulder and nitpicking everything he's doing. I'm also a big DeSagana Diop fan -- if you don't think Dallas will miss him this spring, you're insane -- and if Jersey can re-sign him for a reasonable deal, that's a nice haul when you throw in the first-rounders and the cash. If Nenad Krstic ever bounces back from the longest recorded ACL tear on record, Jersey suddenly has a nice group of young big guys: Krstic, Diop, Sean Williams and Josh Boone. All of those guys can play.

One thing bugged me about the deal from Jersey's end: Kidd was being paid $20 million a year as Jersey's franchise player until he decided he didn't like his situation anymore -- a situation that, by the way, he could have altered five years ago by signing with San Antonio and playing with Duncan and Ginobili, only he stupidly stayed with the Nets when he was their only elite player -- so he made a stink and got himself traded because the union allows great players to sabotage their own situations to force trades. I get the whole "New Jersey respected Jason's contributions and wanted to do right by him" angle, but what about respecting the Nets' fans who bought season tickets to watch Jason Kidd this season? What about them? He mattered more than the entire fan base? Part of me wishes the Nets had told Kidd, "Go to hell" and kept him. Because that's always fun. But at least they got something back for him.

(Important note: I don't blame Kidd for throwing a hissy fit -- I would have done the same if I had to play with Vince Carter. I just hate when guys sign deals for franchise money, then don't feel obligated to carry the franchise through thick and thin. Yes, I'm talking to you, Jermaine O'Neal.)


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Post#2 » by Crizlassic » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:02 am

Truth. Not really that different from what we've heard already.
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Post#3 » by Serpo » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:07 am

Yep nothing new , still it's true .
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Post#4 » by Netaman » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:18 am

I like Simmons for entertainment but find whenever he talks about one of the teams I follow his analysis is extremely superficial. His major article about Dallas trading for Kidd, which basically trashed the trade for Dallas, was flawed in a lot of ways.

What he neglects when talking about the return for Jersey is the fact that every proposed trade he made for Kidd in his articles was complete **** compared to what we got. If I saw one more proposal of Jordan Farmar and Vladimir Radmanovich (or his latest proposal which was Raef Lafrentz, a lottery protected pick, and Rudy Fernandez) I was going to hurl. But thats just me.
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Post#5 » by netsforever » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:20 am

Eh, big Simmons fan here.

I absolutely love his trade value columns.
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Post#6 » by Netaman » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:30 am

netsforever wrote:Eh, big Simmons fan here.

I absolutely love his trade value columns.


I love Simmons too, I just hate when he talks about teams I have where I have a rooting interest. I am a Giants fan so that may be why.
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Post#7 » by EFF » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:11 pm

Might be the same opinion, but it's always more fun to hear it from simmons. I hate his Boston allegiances but he's a damn good columnist/radio host.
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Post#8 » by mack69 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:18 pm

More of the same it is over! Kidd is in Dallas find something else o write about!
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Post#9 » by SaintofKillers » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:40 pm

Simmons analysis on our end of the deal was incredibly stupid I thought he was Charley Rosen at one point but this part is right on the money:

Avery Johnson (the biggest control freak in the league)
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Post#10 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:49 pm

Bill Simmons is an idiot, nothing was sweeter than when the Giants made an absolute fool out of him....if i recall, he talked a ton of smack about how the Pats were gonna smack the G Men...nope!!

I do agree that we got 90 cents on the dollar for this deal though.
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Post#11 » by EFF » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:57 pm

he was wrong. but he's still good in my opinion. It's not like he was the only one who gave the giants no chance.
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Post#12 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:09 pm

No mercy for anyone who didn't give the Giants a chance :laugh:
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