Top 5 PG Prospects?

guaves13 · Post #61 » by **guaves13** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:12 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Augustine is not athletic or quick? Watch him again. He is more athletic and quicker than Jerrells.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Quickness is the biggest attribute that Augustin has. He is very explosive changing speeds and directions. That's the first thing I noticed about him.

buc003 · Post #62 » by **buc003** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:58 pm

You have to put Jonny Flynn name in the hat...

Season Averages
PTS REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS
15.3 2.7 5.1 2.7 1.91 1.5 .1 1.5 .440 .790 .325 1.28

Since every one is held up on numbers here you go. He is playing in one of the toughest conferences there is if not the toughest. The Cuse record is 17-11. Arizona is 17-10 since everyone is putting Bayless in, who I like as well.

Flynn (SYR)
Price (UCONN)
ROSE (MEM)
AUGUSTINE (TEX)
Lawson (UNC)

Here is a stat to look at right now A/T Ratio. Price 2.6 to 1. Flynn 1.91 to 1.

Upperclass · Post #63 » by **Upperclass** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:08 pm

guaves13 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Quickness is the biggest attribute that Augustin has. He is very explosive changing speeds and directions. That's the first thing I noticed about him.

Having good to great lateral quickness is different from the quicks needed to penetrate effectively..imo he isnt overly quick, he's maybe a hair quicker than an Acie Law who is having problems penetrating as well

guaves13 · Post #64 » by **guaves13** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:32 am

Upperclass wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Having good to great lateral quickness is different from the quicks needed to penetrate effectively..imo he isnt overly quick, he's maybe a hair quicker than an Acie Law who is having problems penetrating as well

Who said anything about lateral quickness? I am talking about explosion and stop-start ability with the ball in his hands. It's obvious that he has tremendous acceleration ability. I would say that ball penetration is one of his strong suits.

Cammo101 · Post #65 » by **Cammo101** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:40 am

DJ Augustine will have zero problems getting into the lane at the next level. He is on par with Chris Paul as it pertains to quickness.

Upperclass · Post #66 » by **Upperclass** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:37 am

buc003 wrote:You have to put Jonny Flynn name in the hat...

Season Averages
PTS REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS
15.3 2.7 5.1 2.7 1.91 1.5 .1 1.5 .440 .790 .325 1.28

Since every one is held up on numbers here you go. He is playing in one of the toughest conferences there is if not the toughest. The Cuse record is 17-11. Arizona is 17-10 since everyone is putting Bayless in, who I like as well.

Flynn (SYR)
Price (UCONN)
ROSE (MEM)
AUGUSTINE (TEX)
Lawson (UNC)

Here is a stat to look at right now A/T Ratio. Price 2.6 to 1. Flynn 1.91 to 1.

Him and Chris Warren from ole miss are absolute stud guards for the future.. i love Warrens scoring ability and athleticism

cdash · Post #67 » by **cdash** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:03 am

I think people are sleeping on Nick Calathes at Florida. I am not saying he is the top point guard in this draft, or even a lottery pick at this point, but he has great size and does a little bit of everything well. Seems to have a really high basketball IQ. I think if he stays in school and produces well for a Gator team that should be pretty good next year, that he could be a lottery pick and someone to watch.

Post #68 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:23 pm

buc003 wrote:You have to put Jonny Flynn name in the hat...

Season Averages
PTS REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS
15.3 2.7 5.1 2.7 1.91 1.5 .1 1.5 .440 .790 .325 1.28

Since every one is held up on numbers here you go. He is playing in one of the toughest conferences there is if not the toughest. The Cuse record is 17-11. Arizona is 17-10 since everyone is putting Bayless in, who I like as well.

Flynn (SYR)
Price (UCONN)
ROSE (MEM)
AUGUSTINE (TEX)
Lawson (UNC)

Here is a stat to look at right now A/T Ratio. Price 2.6 to 1. Flynn 1.91 to 1.

So... why are we supposed to be impressed by Flynn? :wink:

Post #69 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Mar 1, 2008 10:42 pm

Tyrese Rice just made my top 10. :clap:

Cammo101 · Post #70 » by **Cammo101** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 12:06 am

DJ Augustine had no problem getn the lane every time he tried today.

guaves13 · Post #71 » by **guaves13** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 2:14 pm

Cammo101 wrote:DJ Augustine had no problem getn the lane every time he tried today.

He's going to be a flat-out stud if he goes to the right team. I'm not sure if he is Chris Paul good but he has all the tools and his #'s are right on par.

waverider · Post #72 » by **waverider** » Wed Mar 5, 2008 3:45 pm

Should Westbrook be added to this discussion - a new analysis

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/NCA ... -Part-One/

cdash · Post #73 » by **cdash** » Thu Mar 6, 2008 2:55 am

Augustin to the Pacers! That little mock lottery/draft thing at ESPN.com has him going there. I think with that high octane offense he could really thrive. He would certainly get minutes there too. Who would have have to beat out, Travis Diener?

waverider · Post #74 » by **waverider** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:59 pm

Anyone think there are significant changes in the "guard" rankings going into the madness? And note I an saying "guard" to include the many combos like Mayo/Gordon/Westbrook and probably a few others.

The only big change for me in Mayo is easily top 3.

1. Still stickin with Rose
2-3 is a tie IMO between Bayless and Mayo depending upon team need and drafing

After these guys IMO its really a tossup between guys like Collison, Augustin, Westbrook and maybe a few others.

Other thoughts?

waverider · Post #75 » by **waverider** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:01 pm

waverider wrote:Anyone think there are significant changes in the "guard" rankings going into the madness? And note I an saying "guard" to include the many combos like Mayo/Gordon/Westbrook and probably a few others.

The only big change for me in Mayo is easily top 3.

1. Still stickin with Rose
2-3 is a tie IMO between Bayless and Mayo depending upon team need and drafing

After these guys IMO its really a tossup between guys like Collison, Augustin, Westbrook and maybe a few others.

Other thoughts?

Sorry, forgoyt to place Gordon at the #4 spot, then the other guys.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #76 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:12 pm

Bayless, Rose, and Mayo are not true point guards in my opinion. That doesn't mean that they can't run a team but if we are talking about true floor generals in this draft then it's these guys in the exact order.

1.Rose
2.Augustin
3.Collison
4.Lawson
5.Sean Singletary
5.Goran Dragic

As Combo Guards (capable of running both point and SG)
1.Mayo
2.Bayless
3.Eric Gordon
4.Lester Hudson
5.Jamont Gordon

Overall Guards
1.Chris Douglas Roberts
2.Chase Budinger
3.Brandon Rush
4.Shan Foster
5.Courtney Lee

Post #77 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:22 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Bayless, Rose, and Mayo are not true point guards in my opinion. That doesn't mean that they can't run a team but if we are talking about true floor generals in this draft then it's these guys in the exact order.

1.Rose
2.Augustin
3.Collison
4.Lawson
5.Sean Singletary
5.Goran Dragic

As Combo Guards (capable of running both point and SG)
1.Mayo
2.Bayless
3.Eric Gordon
4.Lester Hudson
5.Jamont Gordon

Overall Guards
1.Chris Douglas Roberts
2.Chase Budinger
3.Brandon Rush
4.Shan Foster
5.Courtney Lee

????

Cammo101 · Post #78 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:54 pm

Rose is as true a PG as you are gonna find.

Cammo101 · Post #79 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:55 pm

Jamont Gordon behind Lester Hudson is a joke. Hudson would be backing him up if he were good enough to play at Mississippi State in the first place.

ponder276 · Post #80 » by **ponder276** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:21 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Rose is as true a PG as you are gonna find.

Agreed. Just because he can score doesn't mean he's not a true PG. If he was on a team with a few shooters he would rack up a lot more assists.