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Post#121 » by The Sheik » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:41 pm

Marshall45 wrote:Hasn't Vitters struggled A TON. Last year and this year?


Yeah, but who else were we going to take? I know a lot of people liked Weiters, but with Soto and Donaldson we are set at catcher for awhile.

Actually everyone has seem to be high on our first 3 picks from last yr (Vitters, Donaldson, Tony Thomas). Will see if the farm can develop them, I dont think any of us expected Vitters to have a Longoria type leap. Aramis isnt even 30 yet so Vitters has a good 4-5 yrs to develop.
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Post#122 » by Marshall45 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:42 pm

No i would have picked Vitters. I wanted Vitters. I was just pointing out my disappointment that Vitters has played very poorly thus far.
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Post#123 » by The Sheik » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:49 pm

What ever happened to utah pitching legend Mark Pawelek
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Post#124 » by SportsWorld » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:48 pm

Vitters is only 18 though (Turning 19 in August) so he has plenty of time to develop.
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Post#125 » by GYBE » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:09 pm

The Sheik wrote:Yeah, but who else were we going to take? I know a lot of people liked Weiters, but with Soto and Donaldson we are set at catcher for awhile.


I'll defend my position since I was probably more for Wieters than anyone else. You never draft in baseball based on team needs. Wieters is playing well enough that he could be a Top 5 prospect next year. We could've dealt either him or Soto and gotten HUGE value. There's no depth of catchers in the majors. Atlanta got Teixera for Saltalamacchia, and I think both Soto and Wieters are clearly better.

He was the best player on the board and I'll never waver from the opinion that we should've drafted him.
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Post#126 » by treyZz » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:40 pm

Might want to check Donaldson's stats.... not pretty.
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Post#127 » by SportsWorld » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:24 am

RHP Dae-Eun Rhee went on the 7-day DL with triceps tendinitis.
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Post#128 » by Bleeding Green » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:34 am

Are you guys really worried about an 18 year old struggling in A-ball? Go back to 2000 and count up all the guys who are even talented enough to have played in A-ball as 18 year olds. We're talking like 10 guys a year. Guys who do well are guys like Fernando Martinez, Justin Upton, Jose Tabata, et al.

I'd be kind of happy that all of his hits are doubles. 18 years old! He should be in high school right now!

Let's play a game. I'm going to name all the 18 year olds who have put up a .700 OPS in A-ball since 2000. Minimum 200 AB.

2000: Chris Snelling, Carl Crawford
2001: Grady Sizemore, Edwin Encarnacion, Jose Reyes, Miguel Cabrera
2002: Gregor Blanco, Andy Marte
2003: Felix Pie, B.J. Upton
2004: Adam Jones, Delmon Young, Daric Barton
2005: No one.
2006: Jose Tabata, Fernando Martinez (192 AB), Justin Upton
2007: Carlos Triunfel (17 years old--152 AB), Chris Marrero, Bill Rowell

That's quite a list. Only flops are Marte and Blanco and Snelling. And Snelling only because of injuries. And Blanco is still only 24 and fast as hell so he's not done yet. Marte, well, he's done. Almost universally these guys are All-Stars and several of them look like Hall of Famers.

This year there are 11 18 year olds (or younger) in A-ball (3 of them were drafted or signed by the Red Sox :)). By the way, it's just 14 at-bats for Vitters. You should be really excited about him.

http://minors.baseball-reference.com/ba ... =&sort=age
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Post#129 » by SportsWorld » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:45 am

Bleeding Green wrote:Are you guys really worried about an 18 year old struggling in A-ball? Go back to 2000 and count up all the guys who are even talented enough to have played in A-ball as 18 year olds. We're talking like 10 guys a year. Guys who do well are guys like Fernando Martinez, Justin Upton, Jose Tabata, et al.

I'd be kind of happy that all of his hits are doubles. 18 years old! He should be in high school right now!

Let's play a game. I'm going to name all the 18 year olds who have put up a .700 OPS in A-ball since 2000. Minimum 200 AB.

2000: Chris Snelling, Carl Crawford
2001: Grady Sizemore, Edwin Encarnacion, Jose Reyes, Miguel Cabrera
2002: Gregor Blanco, Andy Marte
2003: Felix Pie, B.J. Upton
2004: Adam Jones, Delmon Young, Daric Barton
2005: No one.
2006: Jose Tabata, Fernando Martinez (192 AB), Justin Upton
2007: Carlos Triunfel (17 years old--152 AB), Chris Marrero, Bill Rowell

That's quite a list. Only flops are Marte and Blanco and Snelling. And Snelling only because of injuries. And Blanco is still only 24 and fast as hell so he's not done yet. Marte, well, he's done. Almost universally these guys are All-Stars and several of them look like Hall of Famers.

This year there are 11 18 year olds (or younger) in A-ball (3 of them were drafted or signed by the Red Sox :)). By the way, it's just 14 at-bats for Vitters. You should be really excited about him.

http://minors.baseball-reference.com/ba ... =&sort=age

But BG, we are Cub fans and we are used to having guys like Corey Patterson with a ton of potential flop out when they get to the Majors so that is probably where the panic is coming from.
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Post#130 » by Posey H8er » Sat May 3, 2008 2:27 pm

Gallagher has been pitching pretty well in Iowa. He was named pitcher of the week a few days back. Cotts and Pignatiello have also been putting up good numbers.
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Post#131 » by SportsWorld » Sat May 3, 2008 5:55 pm

I wish the Cubs would have sent up Jose Ascanio instead of Chad Fox. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see Gallagher up for Hill.
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Post#132 » by IbreakNeckZ101 » Sun May 4, 2008 1:55 am

Bleeding Green wrote:Are you guys really worried about an 18 year old struggling in A-ball? Go back to 2000 and count up all the guys who are even talented enough to have played in A-ball as 18 year olds. We're talking like 10 guys a year. Guys who do well are guys like Fernando Martinez, Justin Upton, Jose Tabata, et al.

I'd be kind of happy that all of his hits are doubles. 18 years old! He should be in high school right now!

Let's play a game. I'm going to name all the 18 year olds who have put up a .700 OPS in A-ball since 2000. Minimum 200 AB.

2000: Chris Snelling, Carl Crawford
2001: Grady Sizemore, Edwin Encarnacion, Jose Reyes, Miguel Cabrera
2002: Gregor Blanco, Andy Marte
2003: Felix Pie, B.J. Upton
2004: Adam Jones, Delmon Young, Daric Barton
2005: No one.
2006: Jose Tabata, Fernando Martinez (192 AB), Justin Upton
2007: Carlos Triunfel (17 years old--152 AB), Chris Marrero, Bill Rowell

That's quite a list. Only flops are Marte and Blanco and Snelling. And Snelling only because of injuries. And Blanco is still only 24 and fast as hell so he's not done yet. Marte, well, he's done. Almost universally these guys are All-Stars and several of them look like Hall of Famers.

This year there are 11 18 year olds (or younger) in A-ball (3 of them were drafted or signed by the Red Sox :)). By the way, it's just 14 at-bats for Vitters. You should be really excited about him.

http://minors.baseball-reference.com/ba ... =&sort=age


wow.. good job at finding all this.. anyways i agree with SW.. cubs don't produce stars at all.. maybe soto might be the first.
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Post#133 » by Posey H8er » Wed May 7, 2008 2:05 am

Eyre pitched back to back outings in AA Tennessee and reportedly looked very good. This may mean Pie will get sent down. Pie needs to get more consistent playing time to develop with Major League pitching, who cares if he stinks it up a bit.
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Post#134 » by wizkids185 » Fri May 9, 2008 3:09 am

Tyler Colvin has struggled mightily this year and I ultimately agree with people who conclude that this guy is likely a bust (though there is always hope he could turn things around). I did find a good read on Colvin which I excerpt below:

The list of players with poor plate discipline and average contact skills that become successful major leaguers is a short one. Ask yourself how many players we have seen that have gone on to have successful major league careers with K:BB ratios of 10:1, especially ones that don't have any one particular plus skill.

However, we see breakout performances from athletes that come out of nowhere because they finally "put it together". The same could be said about Colvin, but for now he looks like a potential fourth OF with the upside of a possible left handed side of a platoon.


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Post#135 » by SportsWorld » Wed May 14, 2008 4:32 am

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com ... 2394.story
First baseman Micah Hoffpauir has begun playing right field at Triple-A Iowa so the Cubs can bring him up this summer as a reserve outfielder. Hoffpauir, who led the Cubs with a .419 average in spring training, went 2-for-4 Tuesday with a home run and five RBIs. He missed the first five weeks with an oblique strain.

"We're playing him at first and the outfield," general manager Jim Hendry said. "We're just giving him his best chance to be versatile in case we need a left-handed bat. He has hit the ground running. It just makes sense. If you're going to pencil yourself in as a first baseman, you're probably not going to get too much playing time [behind Derrek Lee]."
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Post#136 » by Posey H8er » Tue May 27, 2008 12:53 am

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I thought this picture looked funny, and it came after Pie went 2-4 with 2 RBI's and a stolen base today as Iowa won. His average is surprisingly in the low .100's still. Jim Edmonds-esque.
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Post#137 » by SportsWorld » Sat May 31, 2008 6:11 am

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball ... 31.article
Kevin Hart continues to pitch well at Class AAA Iowa as one of three starters-in-reserve. The right-hander worked 6 1/3 innings in his last start Thursday against Memphis, giving up two runs and four hits with three walks and striking out nine. Hart has a 3.81 ERA.

What about bringing up Kevin Hart as a starter? He can't be much worse than Jason Marquis.
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Post#138 » by Posey H8er » Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:38 am

Can we trade Murton right now? He is hot as he's going to get and the Cubs will never have him start at a corner outfield spot with Soriano and Fukudome. The trade deadline sounds more reasonable actually.
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Post#139 » by SportsWorld » Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:47 am

The Cubs are a CC Sabathia away from winning it all IMO. This is the closest the Cubs have been from winning it all in decades. If I am Hendry I am seriously considering CC even if we have to give up a lot of prospects to get him.

Give them Rich Hill, Felix Pie, and others. It's very unlikely but it is worth considering.
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Post#140 » by Posey H8er » Mon Jun 2, 2008 4:54 am

This is the best chance we might ever have at going real deep into the playoffs. Do not play safe. Play for this season.

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