Can someone explain to this Yi only fan this new offense?

[Kerb Hohl]

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I agree 100%....that team also had a strong veteran presence, this team has no vet leadership.

To piggyback on that, I would say that Mo is not far off from Cassell, neither played much D.

We obviously have no big dog offensively.

Redd is worse than Ray in this offense because Ray played within the offense. Ray would take his jumpers when Dog or Cassell kicked it out or hit him on a cut. If he was going to drive, he felt he had a good chance of scoring. Ray would only have a high shots game if he was really feeling hot, and he'd do those awesome stretches where he'd nail like 3 of 4 3s from way outside the arc.

Redd is going to take a bunch of shots whether he is hot or not. He feels like he has to be a superstar so he drives and takes stupid fadeaways. Now, he is a very good offensive talent so if the reins are taken off, he can guide us to a 40 win season in this system we run...that isn't what I want though.

We probably do have a better post-presence in Bogut over Williams/EJ.

But, in terms of leadership:
Williams/EJ/Ray/Hunter >>>>>>Any leader we have on this team

Lazy 3 point shooter I'd give a slight edge to TT over CV because he was a bit more efficient. CV has been going to the basket a lot more lately which I like.

They had Caffey to bruise underneath.

Hunter >>Ivey/Bell
Caffey > Yi at this current time

[europa]

Cassell was just a much better player than Mo. He was a guy who had proven himself on good teams and as an impact playoff performer. He could elevate the level of play of his teammates in ways Mo simply cannot.

[Kerb Hohl]

Cassell was just a much better player than Mo. He was a guy who had proven himself on good teams and as an impact playoff performer. He could elevate the level of play of his teammates in ways Mo simply cannot.

I agree with you there.

That said, though, Mo has not had the opportunity to play with the mid-90s Rockets and the late 90s/early 00s Bucks like Cassell did.

I think that Mo could be comparable offensively by age 31, which Cassell was in the '01 season.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Cassell was just a much better player than Mo. He was a guy who had proven himself on good teams and as an impact playoff performer. He could elevate the level of play of his teammates in ways Mo simply cannot.

Cassell and Mo in many ways are similar... where they are not is that Cassell relied mostly on his brain and Mo relies on his wheels.

The results were the same except for the 4th quarter of games. That was when Id rather have Cassell over 20 of Mo Williams.

[Buck You]

Cassel's personality along with his play usually brought everyone up on the court. Mo just plays, doesn't show much emotion.

[jerrod]

Mo just plays, doesn't show much emotion.

so you're saying that mo williams doesn't show much emotion?


am i getting that right?

[Kerb Hohl]

Mo just plays, doesn't show much emotion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcbnsl0ib4E

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Cassel's personality along with his play usually brought everyone up on the court. Mo just plays, doesn't show much emotion.

Another strong point here... I guess Sam was just a winner. Plain and simple a winner. He won whereever he went. Titles in Houston. Best teams in Milwaukee in decades. The best years of the Timberwolves and... led the Clippers when he was "washed up" to within a game of the conference championships.

Just a winner. Id trade anybody on our team for Cassell in his prime....

Only drawback was that he could be cancerous because it seemed his attention span was short. If he wasnt on the move, on a team with talent, his attitude would be suspect.

Hes only gonna make Boston that much better even this late in his career. I loved Sam.

[Kerb Hohl]

Another strong point here... I guess Sam was just a winner. Plain and simple a winner. He won whereever he went. Titles in Houston. Best teams in Milwaukee in decades. The best years of the Timberwolves and... led the Clippers when he was "washed up" to within a game of the conference championships.

Just a winner. Id trade anybody on our team for Cassell in his prime....

Only drawback was that he could be cancerous because it seemed his attention span was short. If he wasnt on the move, on a team with talent, his attitude would be suspect.

Hes only gonna make Boston that much better even this late in his career. I loved Sam.

Give Mo Williams Olajuwon/Horry/Smith, etc.

Give Mo Williams KG/Sprewell

Give Mo Williams Big Dog/Allen

Give Mo Williams Elton Brand
Then we can debate this. A lot of people can be winners in those systems.

[trwi7]

Mo just plays, doesn't show much emotion.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Mo would have had success with those teams... sure. They would have been successful without Mo.

In the playoffs though... the value of a Sam Cassell annihilates the value of a Mo Williams at this point. Sam was a gamer, sneaky, and got under the skin of his opponents.

[Kerb Hohl]

Mo would have had success with those teams... sure. They would have been successful without Mo.

In the playoffs though... the value of a Sam Cassell annihilates the value of a Mo Williams at this point. Sam was a gamer, sneaky, and got under the skin of his opponents.

While I agree that Cassell wins the intangibles and probably would be a better playoff guy...we just really can't make the comparison, Mo hasn't been on a team that has had any chance to win in the playoffs.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

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While I agree that Cassell wins the intangibles and probably would be a better playoff guy...we just really can't make the comparison, Mo hasn't been on a team that has had any chance to win in the playoffs.

Well we can make the comparison but I agree with you as well... Mo may become a Cassell type player as he ages.... I havent seen that yet. Sam is in the twilight of his career. Its easy to discuss him.

I might add Im biased towards Sam. I played against him in juco when he was at San Jacinto the year before he transferred to FSU. You could tell then..... just a type of player that was "different". His quirkiness and gamemanship was always something that set him apart.

You can compare him to Mo only in that what Cassell "has" doesnt come along that often. If Mo "has" it.... I havent seen it yet.

[Buck You]

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Didn't you hear his postgame interview last game. He said that when he's on the court he doesn't get too sad or too happy, he just stays mellow and just plays. That's where I got that from.