Are Carter & McGrady going to the Hall?
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Are Carter & McGrady going to the Hall?
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FlightNo.23
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Are Carter & McGrady going to the Hall?
Well looking at Basketball Reference's Hall of Fame model, Carter has a 94% probability on making it and McGrady has 86%. So what are your thoughts? These guys have had great, great individual regular seasons and Carter has had some playoff success, but do you think that is hall of fame worthy?
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If McGrady gets a ring he's getting in. Hell, if he could have some playoff success for a few years in a row he's getting in. The only possible argument people have against him is playoff success.
IMO if Carter can put up 20/5/5 for another 2 years it'd be hard to keep him out. He was the face of the NBA in his earlier years... he wasn't just a talented player.
*edit* To put things in perspective, McGrady is 28. He still has alot of time in this league.
IMO if Carter can put up 20/5/5 for another 2 years it'd be hard to keep him out. He was the face of the NBA in his earlier years... he wasn't just a talented player.
*edit* To put things in perspective, McGrady is 28. He still has alot of time in this league.
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I think VC could get in, but it won't kill me if he gets snubbed.
With T-Mac I am very wary. Never surviving a 1st round, even with guys like Yao or Battier around you, that is really sad for a potential HOFer. I think he will join guys like Adrian Dantley or Mark Jackson, who were good but did not make it.
BTW, both are worse than Artis Gilmore, Dennis Rodman or Dennis Johnson.
With T-Mac I am very wary. Never surviving a 1st round, even with guys like Yao or Battier around you, that is really sad for a potential HOFer. I think he will join guys like Adrian Dantley or Mark Jackson, who were good but did not make it.
BTW, both are worse than Artis Gilmore, Dennis Rodman or Dennis Johnson.
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That Nicka wrote:Vince Carter has had about the same playoff success as Dominique Wilkins... I say he gets in....
McGrady, imo will get in as long as he wins a playoff series, which will probably be next year or so...
I agree
pillwenney wrote:SacKingZZZ wrote:No thanks to Deng. I read a rumor surfing hoopshype awhile back saying Gay for Reke is a possibility.
Must be true, if it's a rumor you read on Hoopshype.
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they are both the type of people that the HOF likes; flashy, athletic scorers with relatively clear reps (though both did have the quitting on a team thing, neither are associated with violence/drugs/gambling). I would guess both are marginal candidates and it would depend on how strong a class of competitors they face in a given year. (same for DJ, Gilmore faces serious ABA haters, Rodman created his own problems)
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penbeast0 wrote:they are both the type of people that the HOF likes; flashy, athletic scorers with relatively clear reps (though both did have the quitting on a team thing, neither are associated with violence/drugs/gambling). I would guess both are marginal candidates and it would depend on how strong a class of competitors they face in a given year. (same for DJ, Gilmore faces serious ABA haters, Rodman created his own problems)
I don't think that's entirely accurate...
pillwenney wrote:SacKingZZZ wrote:No thanks to Deng. I read a rumor surfing hoopshype awhile back saying Gay for Reke is a possibility.
Must be true, if it's a rumor you read on Hoopshype.
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depends on the next few years..
rings would lock both guys in the HOF..same with Paul Pierce..
without the ring, they are both borderline..if McGrady retires early to play baseball, then he won't make it..but if he continues playing for a while longer, and keeps putting up the same numbers, he'll probably make it..
Carter should make it if he continues putting up good numbers for the next few years, and a playoff appearance, preferably past the first round..the fact that he took a below average supporting cast to the 2nd round and was one shot away from the conference finals helps his cause..he's had some playoff success as a #1..
rings would lock both guys in the HOF..same with Paul Pierce..
without the ring, they are both borderline..if McGrady retires early to play baseball, then he won't make it..but if he continues playing for a while longer, and keeps putting up the same numbers, he'll probably make it..
Carter should make it if he continues putting up good numbers for the next few years, and a playoff appearance, preferably past the first round..the fact that he took a below average supporting cast to the 2nd round and was one shot away from the conference finals helps his cause..he's had some playoff success as a #1..