I don't like Avery

[kaskoosek]

In last years playoffs I think he shouldered most of the blame on his players. I think that he was owned last year by nellie, and instead of backing up his players a bit he tried to shield himself from the blame.

Also owned by riley 2 years ago

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Fact remains, I stressed, "My source is infallible and my info is impeccable," that is, unless Avery was merely venting to confidants, which I find impossible to accept.

Somebody had to be blamed for the Mavs' humiliating upset and, for some odd reason, Avery, like every other head coach, pointed a crooked little finger at Dirk, the strength coach and President Bush, but never at himself.
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This source is foxsports

Its a good thing we have kidd now to make the role of avery obsolete

[JES12]

Avery sitting on the job now that we go Kidd to run the show.

[floppymoose]

Maybe Avery should have shouldered more of the blame, and if so that is a defect. But I still think he is a good coach. Sometimes good coaches get outcoached. He still makes my top10 list of current coaches, and the Mavs would be foolish to let him go unless someone really special was lined up to take over.

[JapanAir21]

That's just his mentality, he's trying to enforce some strength and heart into his players, and as long as they're okay with criticism I don't see the problem.

[Teddy KGB]

Let's make a trade with San Antonio

Dallas sends:

Avery Johnson
2012, 2014, 2016, 2018 1sts

San Antonio sends:

Gregg Popovich


But seriously tho, I think AJ's a really good coach already and will be better once Kidd convinces him to fully get rid of that (Please Use More Appropriate Word) iso system

[catalyst]

Could the Bird Theory of NBA Coaching be coming true in Dallas?

[your_dallas_mavericks]

Nevermind, Cat said Bird theory, not Bird. I thought Bird was being fired from the Pacers.

[catalyst]

Bird Theory is that Coaches lose players after three years. I think coaches lose players after three years if no leader steps up and becomes the coach on the floor, which no mavs has done in avery's time. Nash did it in Nellie time. Kidd can do it, but inserting a coach as opposed to growing one has traditionally not worked.

[dirkforpres]

I like Avery, he knows what hes doing. I think a lot of the blame should fall on him from the playoff heartbreaks though because it is a coach's job to keep the team focused.

[ppp000]

Avery should play to Dirk's strenghts instead of trying to mold him into a poor mans Duncan. In the GS series it was blatantly obvious that not only was Avery out coached, but he couldn't make ANY adjustments to get easier plays for Dirk. The blame should go around.

I doubt Avery will let Kidd run the show entirely. He's a control freak and that's well known.

Ive always felt like Avery was (unfairly at times) the harshest on Dirk and Devin. Meanwhile, Stackhouse, Josh have free rein to throw up countless bricks with questionable shot selection and get by. (Imagine Devin going for 9-27 like Josh did, Avery would blow up in rage).

Until proven otherwise, Avery is not a good playoff coach and should try to make adjustments instead of using cheesy motivational phrases all the time.

[mavsfan1000]

Can't stand Avery's bias towards the older players (Terry and Stackhouse) while having a short least towards (Daniels, Harris, and Diop).

[JES12]

I still feel Avery will have his best coaching years when all the players that he played with retires. I think the young Stack, the young Kidd, the young Jones, the young Juwan, etc. are all still stuck in his mind and can't see them for who they are today.

Edit: And by that time, we will be past Dirk's prime and already traded & waived all our youth away. So, it is upon Kidd & Dirk, not Avery, to win the championship if we win one at all in the Dirk era. Those two have to make themselves player-coaches and make Avery the token coach kinda like Mike D'Antoni in Phoenix.

[Pootie41]

I think coaches lose players after three years if no leader steps up and becomes the coach on the floor, which no mavs has done in avery's time

How can Dirk step up to be leader when Avery puts Dirk in a position to fail?

Dirk lacked respect in the league before Avery came along. With Avery trying to use Dirk like Tim Duncan it just makes dirk look even worse. Everything Avery does seems to be to hurt Dirk and make Avery himself look better.

All Dirk does all game is create offense for his teammates through posting and passing or setting screens all game allowing his teammates to walk to the basket.

So how is Dirk supposed to get in his teammates face and tell them to hit their shots when Avery makes Dirk himself look terrible offensively? That would be like Jordan trying to tell his teammates to make their shots when he doesn't and if Jordan was white like Dirk.. forget about it.


It really just seems as if Avery knew he had no chance of winning a championship with the Mavs roster and because of that he said he will use Dirk as a scapegoat to protect his own image and use Dirk to make himself look like a good coach in the process. And it has worked to perfection so far.

People say "well yeah.. but the Dirk won MVP under Avery". Dirk didn't win MVP out of respec for his game.. Dirk won MVP because the Mavs had the best record in the league and everyone else on the Mavs sucks. Most people didn't want to vote for Dirk but felt obligated to because fo their record. This is why Dikr took all the blame in the playoffs.. after Avery forced Dirk to rest going into the playoffs taking him out of his offensive rhythm as well. And Avery DID bla me dikr for the loss against golden State. He certainly didn't say ANYTHING to protect him when everyone was blaming Dirk. Avery even said Dirk wasn't a good passer which was why the Mavs weren't making their shots .. wide open shots Dirk created for them constantly, by the way.

That's what's really funny about this Kidd trade. Avery has been trying to say Dirk isn't a good passer which is why the Mavs offense is supposed to suck.. yet Even with the greatest passer in the history of the NBA no Mavs other than Dirk can hit the shots Kidd creates for them either.. so much for it being Dirk's fault.

[Rand10]

can i change my vote now?

[JES12]

can i change my vote now?

[Teffer10]

As much as I like Avery and Dirk, I don't think they are a good mix.

I've always felt that Avery has to coach around Dirk. Dirk is too talented to let go so Avery tries to find a way to make the square peg fit his system.

Avery = Great Coach
Dirk = Great Player

Avery + Dirk = 0 (championships)

[Pootie41]

That is a huge part of it.. dirk and Avery are a bad combo.. but Aveyr is also just ignorant about coahcig basketball. He is great in some aspects of coaching. Like some of the stuff he does to motivate.. but I think that's kind of gimmicky and shady too honestly.

[JES12]

That is a huge part of it.. dirk and Avery are a bad combo.. but Aveyr is also just ignorant about coahcig basketball. He is great in some aspects of coaching. Like some of the stuff he does to motivate.. but I think that's kind of gimmicky and shady too honestly.

I think Avery is a good motivator on the personal level. Maybe a great player in a MArio Ellie or Popye Jones role, but as a head coach, he flat out sucks!

[ppp000]

Avery really is not a great coach. He doesnot bring out the best in his players or utilize them to their strengths.

And even worse, he doesn't seem to make adjustments to his mistakes.

Avery is all show and no results.
Case: Devin was supposed to be given free reins this season, then Avery seizes control again and calls every play. Good job in building confidence. Also, there were many games when Avery pulled out Devin for Terry.

Case: Kidd was supposed to brought in mainly to help us close games (Avery's own words). What happens tonight? He goes to the tried and true chuckers of Terry and Stack instead. Terry is NOT, I repeat, NOT a playmaker. Go watch the Celtics game this year, Terry down the crunch was AWFUL in ball handling and shot selection. Terry is a spot up shooter, he can NOT create for others, why Avery continues to think Terry is our 4th quarter man is unfathomable.

[FukaX]