Barry staying in San Antonio

[Mr. Sun]

Barry has shot at least 45% from 3 in the playoffs on two different occasions, actually. He shot 45.5% in his first playoff appearance (as a Clipper) and then shot 50% (on 34 attempts) as a Spur during the 05-06 playoffs.

So everything about your argument is bunk; Barry is a career 40.8% playoff shooter from downtown to Giricek's 46.3%, yes, but Giricek was 14/26 last season, inflating that number and ignoring the 5-15 he shot in his first playoff appearance.

I was under the impression Barry shot 30% from the 3 in last playoff apperance? I was being fair by comparing the two from each other's last playoff apperance.

I am just unconvinced by looking over stats how anyone can say Barry will perform better than Gordan from the 3 this year. He might, then again GG stats equally validate the argument he can put up the same numbers.

[Arles]

I think it's safe to say that Barry is better when healthy. But, who knows how healthy Barry will be down the stretch. At his age, he's a much bigger risk than Giri when it comes to health. The last thing we need is to pass on Giri for Barry, then have Barry's calf flare up right when the postseason starts.

[jgustav1]

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Barry is a considerably better shooter; for use in the role of a spot-up shooter, the better shooter is clearly the better choice.

That he's ALSO capable of being a backup ball-handler to take pressure off of Nash is a bonus, a good way to take the ball out of the hands of Barbosa when you need an intelligent decision-maker that's not Nash.

Again though, Barry >> Giricek as a shooter.

Yes, Giricek should fill the role reasonably well and might set a career-high in 3P%, but Barry would still have been the superior option, even if you look at nothing but shooting ability.

Exactly. Barry is also an excellent passer as well as having PG type ball handling ability. Giricek can fill the role as a 3 point specialist but doesn't have above average skills in other areas.

[toucansma]

Well Giri is also a pretty good defender, cause if it was just 3 point shooting, Pike would be in there.

[tsherkin]

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I was under the impression Barry shot 30% from the 3 in last playoff apperance? I was being fair by comparing the two from each other's last playoff apperance.

Comparing one performance is quite foolish; everyone eventually has a bad performance, it happens.

I am just unconvinced by looking over stats how anyone can say Barry will perform better than Gordan from the 3 this year. He might, then again GG stats equally validate the argument he can put up the same numbers.

GG's stats validate nothing because he's played barely a third as many games and has two POLAR OPPOSITES in terms of level of performance.

Barry has been consistently at an elite level except for one outlier season. This is basic stats stuff and again, as others have mentioned, the difference in ball-handling and passing does make a difference.

You may not be interested in those differences but having another guy on the floor who can function in that type of playmaking role will have a MAJOR impact on of what the Suns are capable while he is on the floor.

But again, the numbers actually favor Barry as a shooter, not Giricek.

[-SDU-]

Did Barry, Spurs Deliver Another Cheap Shot To Suns?

February 29th, 2008 @ 8:04pm by James Schmehl/Sports 620 KTAR

Brent Barry took his time to consider his options. The veteran free agent was a wanted man by many - including a few elite teams in the West and even a top-tier team in the East.

In the end, the 36-year-old sharpshooter opted to return to his roots and sign with San Antonio.

But is it possible Barry knew where he would wind up all along?

Barry cleared waivers Tuesday morning and signed with the Spurs on Thursday - a week after being traded from his former squad to Seattle, which in turn, released him Friday.

"I think maybe there was something behind the scenes there," Suns GM Steve Kerr told Sports 620 KTAR.

Seattle acquired veteran center Kurt Thomas in exchange for Barry, center Francisco Elson and a 2009 first-round draft pick. However, the SuperSonics opted to buy out Barry's $5.6 million contract and release him on Friday.

Barry would seem to be a likely candidate to be waived due to his expiring contract, but consider the alternatives. "If I'm Seattle, I'm not going to let Barry go, I'm going to let Donyell Marshall go," Kerr said.

Marshall, 35, is set to earn $5.6 million this year and $5.9 million in 2008-09.

"When you get all of those guys in those two trades, Brent's a guy who is much more productive," Kerr said. "Donyell Marshall doesn't have much more left in the tank."

However, Kerr suggested potential ties between the SuperSonics and the Spurs, which could account for Barry's buyout. "(Seattle GM) Sam Presti used to be in San Antonio as an assistant," Kerr said. "Who knows? I don't have any proof of that and I'm not about to look into that." Presti and Seattle coach P.J. Carlesimo both worked under Spurs coach and former GM Gregg Popovich at one time in their career

[mkot]

"I think maybe there was something behind the scenes there," Suns GM Steve Kerr told Sports 620 KTAR.

Seattle acquired veteran center Kurt Thomas in exchange for Barry, center Francisco Elson and a 2009 first-round draft pick. However, the SuperSonics opted to buy out Barry's $5.6 million contract and release him on Friday.

Barry would seem to be a likely candidate to be waived due to his expiring contract, but consider the alternatives. "If I'm Seattle, I'm not going to let Barry go, I'm going to let Donyell Marshall go," Kerr said.

I never had thought about that, they got Marshall from that big trade too. Well, I'm just glad that Kerr gave a deadline, it was only the right thing to do. What if the Spurs had told Barry to drag it out until mid-March and eventually tell us he's staying with the Spurs? We would've left with nothing.

[TASTIC]

^Then SA couldn't have had him for the playoffs either - had to publicly make the statement of intent to sign with SA...

[mkot]

^Then SA couldn't have had him for the playoffs either - had to publicly make the statement of intent to sign with SA...

O really? I thought as long as he's cut before March 1st he can be on any playoff roster. Well, regardless, it's good that we gave a deadline, and had a backup plan in Giri.

[-SDU-]

^ i thought the same as mkot??

[TASTIC]

What was the whole 30 day stand down period then?

meh I'm lost. All I know is we didnt get him and that annoys me

[-SDU-]

its just 30 days till he can re-join the team thats all

as long as he was waived before the 1st, its all good.

just means he can play for ANY other team straight away, but cant sign for at least 30 days with the spurs

i have no doubt it was an intentional misleading of the suns

[mkot]

The whole 30 days thing is worthless. The whole idea was to prevent a player from going back to his old team after being traded and then cut, but it's only for 30 days. Like you said in the other thread, just absolutely don't allow player to sign with his old team until after next season if the league really doesn't like this kind of wink-wink deal.

[theFRANCHISE]

sucks that barry lead the suns around by the balls like that... maybe the suns could get tyronn lue hopefullly he doesnt goto the nuggets

[Mr. Sun]

sucks that barry lead the suns around by the balls like that... maybe the suns could get tyronn lue hopefullly he doesnt goto the nuggets

Yeah, maybe the FO will wise up and tell SA they cannot resign Barry.

[tuncaboylu]

Kerr is talking totally meaningless.
"If I'm Seattle, I'm not going to let Barry go, I'm going to let Donyell Marshall go"

That's why Kerr isn't a good GM. Marshall has 2 years contract and Seattle can use his expiring contract next year. But Barry is going to be free-agent this summer and useless for a rebuilding team.