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The Bucks' BPA formula vs 4 Need has not worked...

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The Bucks' BPA formula vs 4 Need has not worked... 

Post#1 » by NotYoAvgNBAFan » Sun Mar 2, 2008 1:20 am

PaulPressey and some others have started draft scenario threads in here now that I would like to touch on a bit here.

I am gonna address this once again for all of you because none of you seem to grasp what I am saying concerning the term BPA vs Need!

Teams with experienced, tested, and proven quality player personnel guys rarely miss on getting and picking the so called BPA. That term is relative to the individual.

I am one to think the Bucks have never ever been adept at picking or finding the BPA, because their choices or BPA are duplicate talents who does not fill what you Need but they overfill what you do have!

So what is left is a losing team that does complement one another. The Hawks took who they thought was the BPA and not what they needed who was Chris Paul over Marvin Williams.

Had they taken CP or Deron we would see them in the second round this year and the finals the next...

They have always opted for steals and misfits and guys who were looked over and then brought them in here and they have just been stopgap second unit players.

Mo Williams, Charlie Bell, Bobby Simmons like Bill Simmons says you spend $100 million dollars on mediocore players and you never solve
your needs!

You get two cornerstones in Bogut and Redd and you can't fill the right players around them to win!

The Bucks front office and personnel dept in conjunction with ownership and their restriants have never got who they needed in the BPA.

The BPA for the Bucks is who has a timid safe personality or character but cannot play to win and have soft games and weak hearts with the game on the line or in adversity and when being challenged!

The Bucks have this BPA philosohpy but they cannot pick the BPA who KNOWS HOW TO WIN!

You need to take for Need, not wants, desires, like the Chinese market and fans claiming Yi is the BPA because he is not. He can't even hold on to the ball!

They need to trade that pick and get a veteran if they wanted to win and not think they can win and rebuild at the same time with a rookie coach!

I said everything Simmons said a long time ago at the begining of the year. The BPA for the Bucks are the ones they traded and let go!

TJ Ford and Rueben Patterson were the BPA and they got rid of them and used them as scapegoats and did not value Terry Porter Mike Schuler or Sam Mitchell's expertise!

Funny they are all winning where they are and this bumflunk team is 14 games under .500! So go figure.

The Spurs build for needs not BPA in the eyes of everyone else. They know what they need and they get it after they have to or three corner
stones.

The Bucks had Ford, Bogut and Redd...and the screwed it up going for guys around them who are not as good as their contract year numbers say they are!

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Re: The Bucks' BPA formula vs 4 Need has not worked... 

Post#2 » by trwi7 » Sun Mar 2, 2008 1:22 am

NotYoAvgNBAFan wrote:I am gonna address this once again for all of you because none of you seem to grasp what I am saying


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Post#3 » by Kerb Hohl » Sun Mar 2, 2008 1:25 am

NotYoAvgNBAFan wrote:The Bucks had Ford, Bogut and Redd...and the screwed it up going for guys around them who are not as good as their contract year numbers say they are!


Duncan/Manu/Parker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Redd/Bogut/Ford

And yes, we made some stupid signings. Bell and Gadz got way too many years and time on their contracts. Simmons was a risk that blew up in our face. What does this have to do with taking "the BPA"? We were trying to add role players, and we did it in a really bad way. San Antonio adds role players all the time as well they just do it much better than the Bucks.
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Post#4 » by LISTEN2JAZZ » Sun Mar 2, 2008 1:29 am

The Hawks took who they thought was the BPA and not what they needed who was Chris Paul over Marvin Williams.
I stopped reading here. The reason Paul would have been the right pick was not because he filled a need. It's because he was the best player available.

When you draft in the NBA, you should always ignore need and take BPA, until you have a player worth building around. If you don't have a player to build around, it doesn't matter what you think your needs are. Your need at that point is a franchise player; not somebody who fits next to some b-level scrub on your roster.

Some teams already have their franchise guy: Miami, Orlando, Boston, Cleveland, and possibly Toronto. They should draft for need to keep their star happy and to get into position to contend.

The rest of the teams (certainly including us) need to find that franchise guy. We have one good piece to build around (Bogut), and he isn't really a franchise player. We don't - or shouldn't - care if our next draft pick plays the same position as Mo/Redd/Mason/Yi... those guys aren't very good in the greater scheme of things.

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