Future looks bright (Whats the next move?)
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Future looks bright (Whats the next move?)
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Future looks bright (Whats the next move?)
Currently the future looks bright with BWright, Beans, Monta. And Marco if he ever comes along.
From the looks of it we are building for the future and the present.
What should be are next move?
What position should be draft at next?SF?
Trade Baron to LA LA land?
If we can trade Baron and First for Brand and Thorton. Would that be a good move?
From the looks of it we are building for the future and the present.
What should be are next move?
What position should be draft at next?SF?
Trade Baron to LA LA land?
If we can trade Baron and First for Brand and Thorton. Would that be a good move?
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Finally went to my first game this season...Aside from doing well from here on out and possibly getting farther than last years playoffs is probably the goal for this season.
In the offseason I'll predict that they will try to shop Harrington and try to move up in the draft...or deal him entirely for a better shooter/rebounder like Mike Miller or get Sean Williams from the Nets.
They need to acquire a big man coach that will improve the games of BWright and Beans. There's been talks about the W' trying to land Elton Brand to offset the Western conference power forwards(Gasol, Boozer,Stoudamire). Beans,Bwright,Bellinelli and Ellis needs to see W's conditioning guy and play together in the summer league.
I'd rather try to get Jermaine O'neal instead if he's available in the offseason. Gotta think that Mully-Indiana pacers connection could happen again.
I don't see the W's dealing Baron to the Lakers or any Western conference team especially if Nellie is still around.
If Bwright or Beans can be Bosh/Duncan-like, then I could see the NBA experts giving us "serious playoff contenders status".
Draftwise...we take the best player and can do it all. No more 7ft stiffs with bad attitudes and slow mobility. If Keith Smart is the coach, they will take D.J.White. If Nelly is the coach, I would not be surprised by taking another international player nobody heard of...If Silas Sr is the coach and Hibbert or Thabeet is still on the board, Silas will lobby to take Hibbert or Thabeet.
In the offseason I'll predict that they will try to shop Harrington and try to move up in the draft...or deal him entirely for a better shooter/rebounder like Mike Miller or get Sean Williams from the Nets.
They need to acquire a big man coach that will improve the games of BWright and Beans. There's been talks about the W' trying to land Elton Brand to offset the Western conference power forwards(Gasol, Boozer,Stoudamire). Beans,Bwright,Bellinelli and Ellis needs to see W's conditioning guy and play together in the summer league.
I'd rather try to get Jermaine O'neal instead if he's available in the offseason. Gotta think that Mully-Indiana pacers connection could happen again.
I don't see the W's dealing Baron to the Lakers or any Western conference team especially if Nellie is still around.
If Bwright or Beans can be Bosh/Duncan-like, then I could see the NBA experts giving us "serious playoff contenders status".
Draftwise...we take the best player and can do it all. No more 7ft stiffs with bad attitudes and slow mobility. If Keith Smart is the coach, they will take D.J.White. If Nelly is the coach, I would not be surprised by taking another international player nobody heard of...If Silas Sr is the coach and Hibbert or Thabeet is still on the board, Silas will lobby to take Hibbert or Thabeet.
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there is no move "to do" at this point.
You don't wanna sign any old players, not sure if any young player out there would be suitable.
That 06 draft really hurt us. Had we nabbed Rudy Gay that draft we'd been set.
Monta
Gay
Wright
Biedrins
Assuming you keep Wright at the 4 spot... we still have two holes. Ideally instead of Marco, we would have gotten Sean Williams. Limited, sure. But the althetic freak required.
You don't wanna sign any old players, not sure if any young player out there would be suitable.
That 06 draft really hurt us. Had we nabbed Rudy Gay that draft we'd been set.
Monta
Gay
Wright
Biedrins
Assuming you keep Wright at the 4 spot... we still have two holes. Ideally instead of Marco, we would have gotten Sean Williams. Limited, sure. But the althetic freak required.
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At the point the Warriors will be drafting, probably should take the "best player available," or trade it, since we're pretty well stocked with young guys. To a large degree, "internal development" will be the mantra, and I think there will be a lot of that... hopefully trickling all the way down to Beli and Kosta. If they use the pick, and Barnes is gone (I hope he's not), maybe a SF. Also, the Warriors could still really use a PG, even if Baron and Monta are around, and there might be a good one available. I would say don't take a big man... he's just not going to be very good late in the first round.
Hopefully Monta and Biedrins don't break the bank. Some of the guys will be gone (Pietrus, Patrick), but I hope they can keep the guys they want. If they can afford a good FA - a decent back up PF or deadeye shooter - that will probably go the farthest in improving the Dubs next season... hopefully they can add another really good player without losing any of the main contributors.
Hopefully Monta and Biedrins don't break the bank. Some of the guys will be gone (Pietrus, Patrick), but I hope they can keep the guys they want. If they can afford a good FA - a decent back up PF or deadeye shooter - that will probably go the farthest in improving the Dubs next season... hopefully they can add another really good player without losing any of the main contributors.
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Nellie will take Ibaka or Ajinca.
They are foreign, long and light.
Patterson or White while rugged and less of "what we already have" are shortish, and american.
Nellie definitely prefers the attitudes and "hunger" of international players. He won't take an american kid if those two are on the board.
They are foreign, long and light.
Patterson or White while rugged and less of "what we already have" are shortish, and american.
Nellie definitely prefers the attitudes and "hunger" of international players. He won't take an american kid if those two are on the board.
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mistatwo mayn wrote:there is no move "to do" at this point.
You don't wanna sign any old players, not sure if any young player out there would be suitable.
That 06 draft really hurt us. Had we nabbed Rudy Gay that draft we'd been set.
Monta
Gay
Wright
Biedrins
Assuming you keep Wright at the 4 spot... we still have two holes. Ideally instead of Marco, we would have gotten Sean Williams. Limited, sure. But the althetic freak required.
Monta, Beans, Wright, I'm satisfied. You can fill in the blanks for the rest: Baron, Jack, Al, Bellinelli, whatever. Maybe a trade. We should trade our pick with Al + whatever if we can get something in return which could help us. I don't see any point in draft picks, especially if it's Nellie again next year since he definitely won't play them. I don't see how another rook who won't get any playing time would be any kind of improvement for us.
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DJ White = Jason Maxiell
Our next move is to get a coach who works well with actual talent and length... someone who gets our post players involved more and can figure out how to use them.
Basically replace Nellie w/anyone who doesn't use guards as the primary, secondary, and emergency offensive weapons.. if it takes getting rid of Baron too, you do it... franchise guards rarely win rings... MJ was the last one.
Our next move is to get a coach who works well with actual talent and length... someone who gets our post players involved more and can figure out how to use them.
Basically replace Nellie w/anyone who doesn't use guards as the primary, secondary, and emergency offensive weapons.. if it takes getting rid of Baron too, you do it... franchise guards rarely win rings... MJ was the last one.
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510Reggae wrote:DJ White = Jason Maxiell
Our next move is to get a coach who works well with actual talent and length... someone who gets our post players involved more and can figure out how to use them.
Basically replace Nellie w/anyone who doesn't use guards as the primary, secondary, and emergency offensive weapons.. if it takes getting rid of Baron too, you do it... franchise guards rarely win rings... MJ was the last one.
With absolutely zero hate for Baron, I have to agree. Baron is and has been a great centerpiece for elevating the franchise. As floppy put it, the Baron playoff show is worth my leaguepass money. But you don't pay a guard 25% of your cap, and you don't comit that money past a player's physical prime. Hopefully he doesn't opt out, so we can get one more contract year, but then, I'd expect it would be smart to move on without him.
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I still think that the Warriors could be jockeying for the 2010/11 Free Agent Class. Basically, if we can lock up Ellis and Biedrins to deals that count less then 20 mil that off season, and fill our roster with cheap rookie contracts and vet minimums, we should have around 35-40 mil in cap space in 2010/11.
The 2010/11 free agent class will be one of the best ever. It will include the likes of Lebron, DWade, Bosh, Amare, TMac, Dirk, among many others.
I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't a major influence into the Baron negotiations. Basically if we can lock him up to a deal that pays him less than 15 mil in 2010/11 then we will have enough cap space to sign a max free agent. Amazingly, some of the top ones will also possibly be looking for a change of scenery. If the Cavs can't get it together, i would be surprised if Lebron WASN'T looking for a new home. The Heat are also imploding, which could lead to Wade looking to bounce. The Suns are going for it all with Shaq, and Nash and co will all be past their prime. Will Amare really wanna sign back on if he is all that is left?
If the Warriors continue to be a playoff team, and some of the youngs emerge, they could be a preeeeeety tempting destination for a free agent. They can also use their draft picks intelligently (ala the Lakers) and they will have an awfully good squad.
Baron
Ellis
Wright
Biedrins
Belineli
Draft Pick #1
Draft Pick #2
Draft Pick #3
Lebron?
The 2010/11 free agent class will be one of the best ever. It will include the likes of Lebron, DWade, Bosh, Amare, TMac, Dirk, among many others.
I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't a major influence into the Baron negotiations. Basically if we can lock him up to a deal that pays him less than 15 mil in 2010/11 then we will have enough cap space to sign a max free agent. Amazingly, some of the top ones will also possibly be looking for a change of scenery. If the Cavs can't get it together, i would be surprised if Lebron WASN'T looking for a new home. The Heat are also imploding, which could lead to Wade looking to bounce. The Suns are going for it all with Shaq, and Nash and co will all be past their prime. Will Amare really wanna sign back on if he is all that is left?
If the Warriors continue to be a playoff team, and some of the youngs emerge, they could be a preeeeeety tempting destination for a free agent. They can also use their draft picks intelligently (ala the Lakers) and they will have an awfully good squad.
Baron
Ellis
Wright
Biedrins
Belineli
Draft Pick #1
Draft Pick #2
Draft Pick #3
Lebron?
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I wouldn't mind taking Shawne Williams off Indiana's hands as it sounds like his problems are mostly related to hanging out with local morons. I don't know what he would be worth (assuming that he isn't released), but I might be willing to give up the first if it's in the 20's.
Heck, if Indy really still has interest in Harrington, I'd take Williams and Daniels in return, then flip Daniels and our 1st (and maybe cash; maybe get the PHO first back) to Seattle for Wilcox. I think that Wilcox could play with both Wright and Biedrins and I'd love to see him here in a contract year at the age of 26.
This would give us a little more breathing room to resign Ellis and Beans as well as set us up perfectly for the 2009 off-season. Wright, Belinelli, Williams and Perovic would all still be on rookie deals along with Jack, Ellis and Beans making about $27 million combined. We'd probably have more than the max available in caproom with Baron and Wilcox as FA's. Lots of options with Brand, Boozer, Odom, Marion as likely FA's along with Kidd. We'd have another year to make sure that Monta is the PG most of us think he will be, and will basically be able to trade Baron and Wilcox for a big-time PF and possibly an aging Kidd. Personally, I think I'd try to get Marion and Kidd then roll with this lineup in 2009:
Monta/Kidd
Jack/Belinelli/Monta
Marion/Williams/Jackson
Wright/Marion
Biedrins/Perovic
(Probably still need a back-up center.)
Heck, if Indy really still has interest in Harrington, I'd take Williams and Daniels in return, then flip Daniels and our 1st (and maybe cash; maybe get the PHO first back) to Seattle for Wilcox. I think that Wilcox could play with both Wright and Biedrins and I'd love to see him here in a contract year at the age of 26.
This would give us a little more breathing room to resign Ellis and Beans as well as set us up perfectly for the 2009 off-season. Wright, Belinelli, Williams and Perovic would all still be on rookie deals along with Jack, Ellis and Beans making about $27 million combined. We'd probably have more than the max available in caproom with Baron and Wilcox as FA's. Lots of options with Brand, Boozer, Odom, Marion as likely FA's along with Kidd. We'd have another year to make sure that Monta is the PG most of us think he will be, and will basically be able to trade Baron and Wilcox for a big-time PF and possibly an aging Kidd. Personally, I think I'd try to get Marion and Kidd then roll with this lineup in 2009:
Monta/Kidd
Jack/Belinelli/Monta
Marion/Williams/Jackson
Wright/Marion
Biedrins/Perovic
(Probably still need a back-up center.)
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floppymoose wrote:I'd rather have Harrington that Wilcox.
I could go either way on this, but the main point is that I'd rather be rid of Harrington's contract a year earlier when there will be plenty of options to replace him and the team will have significant cap space. IMO Wilcox would probably be the type to really show up in a contract year, I just wouldn't dare resign him for more than one year at a time at his current price.
I also think it would be best if Baron doesn't opt out this year, and I see very little reason that he would, unless the team wanted to extend him now, which I also doubt.
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