Definition of Home-Court Advantage

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Definition of Home-Court Advantage 

Post#1 » by |||-Abaddon-||| » Mon Mar 3, 2008 5:52 pm

The typical definition behind home court advantage is that players do not have to travel to play in another city. Another definition is that the crowd is behind the players to motivate them to win.

But I think home-court advantage directly applies to the lop-sided calls most home teams get. As a result, opposing teams are less capable of driving and getting respect from officials. Basically, if the home team struggles by not preparing well for a game, they can make up for their inexecusable apathy to get back into a game by getting crappy calls in their favor.

The only way to really beat home-court advantage (from a visiting teams perspective) is to shoot the ball extremely well, as calls will not bode in your favor.

Just a testemant of how rigged the league kinda is, and how the NBA will do whatever it takes to satisify home fans.

Is this fair to assume, becuase its clearly obvious there are too many games where certain teams and certain players always seem to get the benefit particularly playing at home. I've seen too many games where too many lop-sided calls are made, and this frustrates me about the fairness of the league, feeling as though it is sort of deteriorating the game.

We need to implement fair officiating, despite being a completely subjective profession, should be fair to fans and teams of both sides of the spectrum.

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Post#2 » by ffz2000 » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:20 pm

See Jazz, Utah and Warriors, Golden State for other references.
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Re: Definition of Home-Court Advantage 

Post#3 » by jefe » Mon Mar 3, 2008 7:11 pm

|||-Abaddon-||| wrote:The typical definition behind home court advantage is that players do not have to travel to play in another city. Another definition is that the crowd is behind the players to motivate them to win.

But I think home-court advantage directly applies to the lop-sided calls most home teams get. As a result, opposing teams are less capable of driving and getting respect from officials. Basically, if the home team struggles by not preparing well for a game, they can make up for their inexecusable apathy to get back into a game by getting crappy calls in their favor.

The only way to really beat home-court advantage (from a visiting teams perspective) is to shoot the ball extremely well, as calls will not bode in your favor.

Just a testemant of how rigged the league kinda is, and how the NBA will do whatever it takes to satisify home fans.

Is this fair to assume, becuase its clearly obvious there are too many games where certain teams and certain players always seem to get the benefit particularly playing at home. I've seen too many games where too many lop-sided calls are made, and this frustrates me about the fairness of the league, feeling as though it is sort of deteriorating the game.

We need to implement fair officiating, despite being a completely subjective profession, should be fair to fans and teams of both sides of the spectrum.

Thoughts?


You don't really offer any proof of what you're saying - I think the problem is preferable treatment of star players, whether they be at home or on the road, and not preferable treatment of the home team. Certain players get BS calls no matter where they play, and other players can get hacked repeatedly without getting any calls no matter where they play IMO.
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Post#4 » by killacalijatt » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:09 pm

The typical definition behind home court advantage is


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Post#5 » by Ming Kong! » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:16 pm

killacalijatt wrote:
The typical definition behind home court advantage is


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Golden State is 21-10 @ home, and 15-12 on the road.

Utah though is 25-3 @ home, and 13-19 on the road.

No team has a bigger discrepancy at home vs on the road.
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Post#6 » by farzi » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:32 pm

Ming Kong! wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Golden State is 21-10 @ home, and 15-12 on the road.

Utah though is 25-3 @ home, and 13-19 on the road.

No team has a bigger discrepancy at home vs on the road.


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Post#7 » by dacher » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:00 pm

You just got to accept it and deal with it as another opponent to overcome.

I think of it as playing 5 on 6 -- the 6th man being ref bias, role players sucking on the road, home court advantage, or whatever you want to call it.
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Post#8 » by cdubbz » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:16 pm

Yeah its more of a superstar calls....its totally BS how kobe can get a touch foul but then a normal player cant. Its a game and i dont see how players can EARN to have more fouls called for them
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Post#9 » by Parasight » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:25 pm

It's human nature for any person to feel the heat when officiating against the home team. It's much easier to make a call that the favours the crowd. It's not fair, but that's just how we are.
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Post#10 » by Philly Fresh » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:35 pm

It's not really home-court calls, but the referees being pressured into some of them. Yes they are professionals and the crown shouldn't be influencing the calls they make, but when 17,000+ people are cheering for one team, and you start to hear boos or see something happen to the home team, you often get pressured into making calls that may not have happened.
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Post#11 » by Jack wore plaid » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:49 pm

Ming Kong! wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Golden State is 21-10 @ home, and 15-12 on the road.

Utah though is 25-3 @ home, and 13-19 on the road.

No team has a bigger discrepancy at home vs on the road.



Portland is

22-8 at home
9-21 on the road
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Post#12 » by FJS » Mon Mar 3, 2008 10:05 pm

Ming Kong! wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Golden State is 21-10 @ home, and 15-12 on the road.

Utah though is 25-3 @ home, and 13-19 on the road.

No team has a bigger discrepancy at home vs on the road.


Dallas 25-3 and 14-18....
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Post#13 » by AdamTheGreek » Mon Mar 3, 2008 10:14 pm

Orlando doesn't seem to benefit. :(
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Post#14 » by Ming Kong! » Mon Mar 3, 2008 11:13 pm

Jack wore plaid wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




Portland is

22-8 at home
9-21 on the road


I'm really good at arithmetic:

Portland
22-8 = .733
9-21 = .300
.733 - .300 = A .433 discrepency

Utah
25-3 = .893
13-19 = .406
.893 - .406 = A .487 discrepency
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Post#15 » by Albanian Damien » Mon Mar 3, 2008 11:50 pm

Parasight wrote:It's human nature for any person to feel the heat when officiating against the home team. It's much easier to make a call that the favours the crowd. It's not fair, but that's just how we are.
I was just about to say this. Other than that Home court advantage is so crucial. Young players usually have a harder time playing with a hostile crowd. Also believe it or not the crowd helps set the pace at time. When they start standing, moving their bodies, and making loud noise at time the opposing team might take a rushed shot or make a dumb decision. They get so nervous of messing up that they mess up anyway.
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Re: Definition of Home-Court Advantage 

Post#16 » by JordansBulls » Mon Mar 3, 2008 11:57 pm

|||-Abaddon-||| wrote:The typical definition behind home court advantage is that players do not have to travel to play in another city. Another definition is that the crowd is behind the players to motivate them to win.

But I think home-court advantage directly applies to the lop-sided calls most home teams get. As a result, opposing teams are less capable of driving and getting respect from officials. Basically, if the home team struggles by not preparing well for a game, they can make up for their inexecusable apathy to get back into a game by getting crappy calls in their favor.

The only way to really beat home-court advantage (from a visiting teams perspective) is to shoot the ball extremely well, as calls will not bode in your favor.

Just a testemant of how rigged the league kinda is, and how the NBA will do whatever it takes to satisify home fans.

Is this fair to assume, becuase its clearly obvious there are too many games where certain teams and certain players always seem to get the benefit particularly playing at home. I've seen too many games where too many lop-sided calls are made, and this frustrates me about the fairness of the league, feeling as though it is sort of deteriorating the game.

We need to implement fair officiating, despite being a completely subjective profession, should be fair to fans and teams of both sides of the spectrum.

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This gives you an idea of how much homecourt matters in the playoffs.

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Post#17 » by Jemini80 » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:02 am

this is true for every court except for MSG since the NBA headquarters are in NYC, officials seem to go out of their way to call games in favor of the other team in order to not seem bias.

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