Who is this E?

Blame Rasho · Post #41 » by **Blame Rasho** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 3:24 am

My guess is that he told himself that he would stop before he reaches 20,000 posts.

netsforever · Post #42 » by **netsforever** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 3:27 am

TD is the MAN wrote:My guess is that he told himself that he would stop before he reaches 20,000 posts.

Any idea who has the most total posts?

Blame Rasho · Post #43 » by **Blame Rasho** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 4:32 am

I am pretty sure it would still be...

prerak

He at one point in time had more posts than Hawks, Bobcats, Cavs, Nugz, Pacers, Clipps, Grizz, Nets, Hornets, Suns, Blazers, Kings, Spurs, and Sonics boards.

netsforever · Post #44 » by **netsforever** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 4:55 am

That's insane.

lurkingobeiscity · Post #45 » by **lurkingobeiscity** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:38 am

Enetric gaily wrote:I think based on what teams normally get for high priced older players who go public with trade demands...we did very well in the deal. However, one great game off the bench against a putrid opponent from Devin Harris does not convince me he is going to be a star player.

I would have greatly preferred that the Nets kept the big 3...and found a deal like the Lakers got for Gasol. We had the goods to make that deal. Unfortunately, it wasn't there for us. But I would have preferred to give Magloire, Nachbar, Marcus Williams and either 2 picks...or 1 pick and one of Boone or SW and gotten Gasol. Even if I had to give a bit more...its no more than Memphis actually got. And in fact...our picks would have been higher.

From what I read recently...Memphis didn't even shop for a better offer which makes me think...West had something to do with that deal.

I also would have loved to have gotten the all time royal value Miami got for Shaq. A player even older than Kidd with an even more ridiculous contract who isn't currently anywhere near as good as Kidd.

The Heat got PAID...and by that standard...we didn't get what I call a proven player. But those bad deals like Kerr made are rare today...so I can't blame Rod Thorn for that. He did well by the standard of what you get...and for Dallas they gave as much as they could give. In fact the sum of their parts was a big hit to what they do. Individually I am not impressed with anyone. But collectively, this hurts them in many ways more than it will help us. The funniest part to me is that we got Hassell. A player you know I have wanted for several seasons in many of my KG scenarios. Glad we got Hassell...but without KG...it just doesn't feel as good...lol.

I like Harris. I think he has talent. That whole top 5 young PG thing you just said? (top 5 PGs at that age) OK, but there is a CANYON between the guys above him in this league that you are referring to at this time. Chris Paul, Derron. And I think I would prefer guys like Roy or Foye in the long run but I hope I am wrong.

My question about this deal is...what now? What's the plan here? So we go from middle of the road team to lower middle of the road team? I have said for years, be a contender...or have a plan how you are getting there shortly...or be in the lottery. What would be the point of making the playoffs this year? What does it do for our future?

Did we trade ourselves further into mediocrity? I mean, we didn't get good picks from Dallas. At least not the first pick. So we have a lot to resolve. I don't get giddy about this guy or that guy in the moment. You know that. I look big picture. How many guys have we had that had a handful of games where everyone was jumping off the roof about them?

The fact is...we just traded the best player in Nets franchise history who was still playing at a high level. We have a lot of upside inconsistent youth...most of which is destined to be role players not stars. And we have one big contract left for an older veteran who is going to start to show decline. Now that we dealt Kidd...unless we can make a MAJOR turnaround right away...we should dump VC...become a lottery team...and take a step back for a few seasons.

The thing about this deal...Harris, and a healthy VC/RJ plus the role guys we have...are good enough to make the playoffs in a bad conference. When they get bounced round 1 in 4 or 5 games...what good is that?

Hopefully Harris can explode into something special. But more than likely he doesn't have a big window of time to do it.

I will be rooting for Devin Harris to break out. Since I expect so little from the picks we got...it all hinges on him.

I know he won't really respond but still...

Harris doesn't strike me as a guy that will ever be elite but I do think he can be a key player and a 20ppg (or so) guy on a great team. I think Thorn made a killing in this trade. Yes we traded away the best player in franchise history, but you always buy low, sell high. We just sold right before the big downturn. Maybe a little too early, but too early is better than too late. After the Gasol trade, I don't think there was anything the Nets could have done to become a true contender in Kidd's time.

Ideally, we would have liked to get Gasol at that type of price but I agree, there is something fishy about that. There is no way that there wasn't a single team willing to make a better offer for a young stud PF with no injury problems, off court, or on court problems.

I would hope that the direction of this team is firmly towards rebuilding. The Harris deal left us in that dead man's land for this season but it is very difficult to change the direction of a franchise on such short notice. A Carter trade in the offseason would seal the deal, though I fully expect any such deal to be very lopsided against us, due to Carter's reputation, contract and age.

I think this team will be made very young and minutes will be given to whoever steps up. Set up the cap and contracts so we can be players in free agency during the Lebron, Wade, Bosh year and let the rest sort itself out. It is a longshot to get any of those guys but if you gather enough young talent, potential stars or role players, then you set yourself up to do what Boston did.

The worst thing this team can do is rush a rebuilding effort and get stuck as the 7th seed in the East for the next couple years. Things won't likely go according to plan over the next few years but a flexible three year plan has the best chance of success. It also coincides with the move to New York, and a supposed big year of free agency. This sort of plan offers the highest ceiling (signing a 25 year old Lebron in free agency to a New York team with gobs of young talent) and that ceiling is what I believe should be shot for. There are no guarantees but if this sort of thing (rebuilding in general, not the Lebron scenario) is done right, then the Nets would likely be true contenders.

If the people in charge aren't willing to do a full rebuild, then the Nets probably will be that team always barely slipping into the playoffs.

If you want, E, you can join me in replacing the KG dream with the 2010 free agency dream.

Salvee · Post #46 » by **Salvee** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 12:25 pm

Pugsley_2491 wrote:yeah, what exactly is his reason for not posting? I mean you don't just stop for no reason.

If I remember correctly, E stopped posting when we didn't get KG / when he went to Boston :noway:

Post #47 » by **jerseyjac** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 12:58 pm

as far as reasons for E not being here...

none of the above...

but I am hopeful...

jeff1624 · Post #48 » by **jeff1624** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 1:57 pm

jerseyjac wrote:as far as reasons for E not being here...

none of the above...

but I am hopeful...

My guess was that he was part of the WGA and was striking all this time.... ehh guess I was wrong......lol

BasketBrain · Post #49 » by **BasketBrain** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 2:17 pm

I think E doesn't post because he simply doesn't have internet in his home. He probably goes to an internet cafe or to a friends/relatives house to use the internet, check emails, but doesn't have time to be on the boards anymore....Either that or enetric is a new proud poppa...But I'm a new proud poppa, I still find time to be here once in awhile...

Or maybe he just works so much he doesnt have the time and/or stamina to even be on realgm. If none of these are the reasons then maybe, just maybe, he simply just got tired of the whole realgm thing...

Any possible theories on the disappearance of Enetric. Dave Chappelle, or on the Lost show may be from now on posted on here...

jeff1624 · Post #50 » by **jeff1624** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 2:39 pm

BasketBrain wrote:I think E doesn't post because he simply doesn't have internet in his home. He probably goes to an internet cafe or to a friends/relatives house to use the internet, check emails, but doesn't have time to be on the boards anymore....Either that or enetric is a new proud poppa...But I'm a new proud poppa, I still find time to be here once in awhile...

Or maybe he just works so much he doesnt have the time and/or stamina to even be on realgm. If none of these are the reasons then maybe, just maybe, he simply just got tired of the whole realgm thing...

Any possible theories on the disappearance of Enetric. Dave Chappelle, or on the Lost show may be from now on posted on here...

Congratulations dude...

treiz · Post #51 » by **treiz** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:41 pm

^Yeah

E, do you know where Hansel is? He hasn't posted for like 1-2 years now.

G_MoNeY · Post #52 » by **G_MoNeY** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:57 pm

lol, BC took his avatar!

aussienet · Post #53 » by **aussienet** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 10:33 pm

BasketBrain wrote:I think E doesn't post because he simply doesn't have internet in his home. He probably goes to an internet cafe or to a friends/relatives house to use the internet, check emails, but doesn't have time to be on the boards anymore....Either that or enetric is a new proud poppa...But I'm a new proud poppa, I still find time to be here once in awhile...

Or maybe he just works so much he doesnt have the time and/or stamina to even be on realgm. If none of these are the reasons then maybe, just maybe, he simply just got tired of the whole realgm thing...

Any possible theories on the disappearance of Enetric. Dave Chappelle, or on the Lost show may be from now on posted on here...

Ballboys. When will they learn? I miss the old posters you know guy's like E and basket case aka BC.............wait a minute! is that? nah couldn't be, but maybe just maybe......lol

BasketBrain · Post #54 » by **BasketBrain** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 11:04 pm

aussienet wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Ballboys. When will they learn? I miss the old posters you know guy's like E and basket case aka BC.............wait a minute! is that? nah couldn't be, but maybe just maybe......lol

Yeah I miss BC too...

Shutup Jeff and Mazz!

Cruzeirao · Post #55 » by **Cruzeirao** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 11:49 pm

I think Enetric got mad when he was suspended with someone.

He tried to make a comeback but something happen and he decided to leave for good.

FGump · Post #56 » by **FGump** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 2:07 am

Interesting comments by The Poster Formerly Known as E. (Wonder if he prances and wears purple? Maybe Net colors instead? Who knows.)

My comments on the topics here, as one who has observed both teams for quite some time ...

1. E and I discussed many times the fact I thought the Nets HAD TO make a trade for a big, someway somehow. If not KG, then JO or Gasol. All were on the block. None came here. That was a disaster on many levels.

I understand the constraints of reality, far better than most. But I thought the Nets should have made a real run at Gasol, and I don't think he was ever more than an afterthought. Gasol is not "all that" (the hype machine in LA is overrating him, of course), but he was the Available Big Man that could have kept it together. Shoulda, and I think coulda.

2. I think I have the unique perspective of observing both Nash and Kidd from the perspective of "my team" (appreciate the things they do and see the flaws) and "not my team" (see what is missing without them and what is better without them) and the being able to compare them on a much more objective basis.

My view on Kidd - much better than I knew. The size - allowing him to competently defend other positions- is a bigger plus than I ever recognized. The lack of a scoring mentality (and an ability to shoot) does create hidden challenges, though, and what you gain in his passing ability you can lose from the opponent's ability to use his defender as a rover and clog the lanes to the basket. Can he be a better passer and bring more assists but everyone else's shooting percentages go DOWN? Unfortunately yes.

Nash's ability to both pass and score is a big plus over Kidd. But his lack of size and attitude on defense are bigger negatives than the myth aboiut his magnificence admits.

For the Mavs, having seen both and knowing what they can do, I much prefer Kidd. But that's in part because I am HOPING he can score some and keep defenses honest. If he can't, it's big trouble and the ceiling will be much lower in Dallas than many realize.

That having been said, many said Harris couldn't shoot, and he's turned into a damn good shooter alongside Dirk, as you'll see. (He's no Kapono or Jason Terry, but he's reliable when he's selective.) I think (hope?) Kidd can do the same.

3. I disagree a ton with E's view that the Mavs were hurt by this trade. While the national media have been slow on the uptake on this point, Diop was NOT a factor in Dallas at all this year. He barely was playing. So from Dallas POV, this was nothing more than Harris-for-Kidd. (Not saying Diop can't play, only that he was not a factor at all and played very little this year.)

Because of the leadership qualities Kidd brings, something sorely lacking in a team of players all willing to defer, turning Harris into Kidd was a GREAT trade for Dallas.

4. Will Harris be the guy in NJ? I doubt it, but he will be a contributor. I just don't think he'll be a guy you can make as your key, for quite a few reasons. (I see no good reason to elaborate on a NJ board and hope he turns out better than that.) He will be good, and give you good moments.

I think the Mavs decided he wouldn't be ever good enough at PG to get them to a title. And Kidd might. So why not roll the dice?

5. I thought of E when Hassell was getting subbed into the deal at the last minute. He can give solid minutes when given the chance. Can hit a shot (fairly reliably) and can play some D. But he doesn't shoot/make 3s and all his shots are mid-range, so that puts some limits on how he can be used.

6. I agree it was a great "gotta move him" trade for NJ. They didn't get any junk and did get one or more pieces that could help. Harris will be a keeper for sure. And you weren't going to get anything of star quality back, so this was as good as could be wished for.

For Dallas, I like it. If Kidd plays 4 years rather than 2 at the same level (and based on his reliability the last few years, is that a stretch?), it's great.