is Gasol + Bynum a good fit?

numbas · Post #21 » by **numbas** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 10:11 pm

it reminds me alil of the spurs twin towers

YiYaoYue · Post #22 » by **YiYaoYue** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 11:50 pm

I think Bynum is a stronger fit for lakers... he is a dominant big who can power his way into a 3 point play dunk +1. He also can defend the big men which gasol can't... Gasol is perfect at the PF position with his length, rebounding, and that mid range shot. Odom needs to step up at SF positon like he has as a PF with bynum and gasol playing center. It will be interesting to see how he does when he is moved to the small forward position... Ariza is crucial also because when odom is against a smaller quicker SF they need Ariza on the floor instead. Lakers with bynum/ariza/vlad have a lot more counters against pretty much any combination of speed, strength, size, etc that is thrown at them. It is just a matter of getting it done with energy on the defensive end that will determine if lakers can go all the way.

B-Scott · Post #23 » by **B-Scott** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 12:19 am

if Gasol is the Laker PF in the playoffs,then Dirk, Duncan, Amare, West will have career playoff years. Gasol can not defend mobile power forwards.

Lakers are better off with Gasol at center because the centers in the West are not very good with the exception of Yao and he's out for the season.

That Nicka · Post #24 » by **That Nicka** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 12:24 am

B-Scott wrote:if Gasol is the Laker PF in the playoffs,then Dirk, Duncan, Amare, West will have career playoff years. Gasol can not defend mobile power forwards.

Lakers are better off with Gasol at center because the centers in the West are not very good with the exception of Yao and he's out for the season.

I disagree

Taiwan Killa · Post #25 » by **Taiwan Killa** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 12:35 am

Pau prefers playing PF. He likes having a smaller weaker guy on him because he himself is skinny and likes to use his height.

Plus don't forget he' still gonna be playing backup center.

YiYaoYue · Post #26 » by **YiYaoYue** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 1:05 am

Well gasol can play against backup centers really well... 90% of them aren't very strong nor dominant enough to abuse gasol on the post. Dampier would not have had such a high double double if Bynum was gaurding him. Gasol needs to trust the interior presence when Bynum comes back and not leave his man to help D which could lead to tim duncan, dirk, amare, west, etc having their way with easy shots

Post #27 » by **crackjack** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 7:50 am

90% of backup centers are forwards.

Dampier showed exactly how to defend Gasol today. Kurt Thomas is capable of doing the same thing.

Some adjustments need to be made before the playoffs.

YiYaoYue · Post #28 » by **YiYaoYue** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:40 am

well san antonio is a tough matchup and i have a strong feeling it will be SA and lakers in the WCF although suns/lakers would be more interesting in terms of rivalry (maybe suns will fall down enough to be playing lakers first round). It will be hard to adjust around something like that... gasol will need to dish out to odom a bit for penetration and layups as bowen gaurds kobe that is the best way to pull some pressure away from bynum and gasol as attention is paid to odom. Odom just isn't comfortable in that role which makes things very difficult against the spurs.

I have no worries about dallas as bynum will put dampier in foul trouble and i doubt dirk can handle bynum, so we wont see dampier on gasol.

Amare isn't exactly lock down defender so gasol shouldn't have too much trouble against amare.

West would probably give gasol more trouble tham amare, but kobe won't have much trouble carrying the team.

Gasol against okur will be a bit annoying if he doesn't go out to the perimeter and defend him and have odom switch on him which could lead to kirlenko open a bit.

LAKESHOW · Post #29 » by **LAKESHOW** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:48 am

it basically boils down to clamping down as much as possible on duncan. that is the tough task. start from there. i think we can D up on the others with effectiveness. but duncan is the superstar of that team. and he is 10x more experienced than bynum. and will pose problems. but duncan is the key.

YiYaoYue · Post #30 » by **YiYaoYue** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:55 am

lakers have the interior presence to stop too much penetration like tony parker did against cleveland (which is probably why they wanted ben wallace). Duncan is a problem for any team which is why he is the leader. Lakers have the tools to stop ginobli and have enough offense to score against spurs. A big worry is perimeter defense as the open 3's will be a big problem.

eyejayem · Post #31 » by **eyejayem** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 3:06 am

Is this a serious question? Has anyone watched Phil Jackson and the triangle offense before? The components are there and as long as Bynum's immaturity doesnt get the best of him, it should be a breeze.

1.Lamar not Kobe has even more pressure taken off of him.
2.three post positions(two low post and one high post)
Bynum will always take care of one low post position
Gasol and Kobe will take care of the other two since both can score from both
3.Lamar ,Walton, Fisher, Farmer, or Vujacic play the passer or initiators of the triangle which are usually the 3 point spots at corners and elbows.

This team reminds me of the Bulls when they lost Longley for the 1st half of the season and broke the season record with a lineup of Ron Harper, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, and Toni Kukuc. When you have versatile non selfish players in an offense like this it is bound to pay dividends.