How are AI (original) and the boys doing ?

[dond]

I just took a peek at the Denver forum. Just wanted to see how the Denver fans are holding up with AI over there. Haven't been over there for quite a while.

I looked into the Houston/Denver topic. Whew !!! Brutal !!!!

Brings back memories ....

Yes ... life is good !!!!

[Sixerscan]

If Denver wins 50 games and doesn't make the playoffs and we win 35 and make it I'm going to chuckle.

[barkley34]

I think they really miss Nene. He played pretty good late last season and against the Spurs in the playoffs. Also Atkins was going to be their starting point and has missed most of the year. So they have pretty much been without 40% of their starting lineup all season.

[noone]

I think they really miss Nene. He played pretty good late last season and against the Spurs in the playoffs. Also Atkins was going to be their starting point and has missed most of the year. So they have pretty much been without 40% of their starting lineup all season.

Without Nene, they have no big men that can score anywhere on the court. Camby hits the occasional 18 footer but has an efg% of 37.5. Martin is inconsistent. Neither Martin nor Camby can guard post up big men. Nene is easily their most important big man. Too bad he can never stay on the court.

It also doesn't help the fact that every other playoff team in the West has as much if not more talent and/or depth as Denver. Plus they have much better complimentary pieces. Denver has no big men that can score, especially in the paint, and no consistent 3 point shooters.

[dbodner]

This is where I think people are missing the forest from the tree's. Yeah, we might make the playoffs and denver not. That doesn't mean we're closer to making a championship run than the nuggets talent wise, and certainly doesn't mean "life is good".

You have a .600 team playing in the tough western conference, and we're a .450 team playing in the horrid eastern conference. The fact that we might sneak into the playoffs and them miss out doesn't mean we're a better team, and should not delude you into thinking we're ready to compete with the big boys.

[Fire BK]

I just took a peek at the Denver forum. Just wanted to see how the Denver fans are holding up with AI over there. Haven't been over there for quite a while.

I looked into the Houston/Denver topic. Whew !!! Brutal !!!!
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Funny you say that -
The espn game got me equally curious,
So last night I actually checked their boards and posted on the "this offense..." thread. They have a version of Sendem under the name Melo4Life or something, he's been spewing venom towards AI. Gotta be honest though- I really don't miss AI at all. Especially the way he jabbed at Mo for no good reason somewhat recently. Whatever happened to wanting to kiss him on the mouth?

Anways, yes. The 35/50 split with a simultaneous playoff/lottery split looks on point. That'd be unreal. Also - I wouldn't attribute that to the Western Conference's superiority, alone. It's karma, baby.

[dond]

Funny you say that -
The espn game got me equally curious,
So last night I actually checked their boards and posted on the "this offense..." thread. They have a version of Sendem under the name Melo4Life or something, he's been spewing venom towards AI.

That venom was being spewed in the Houston/Denver game thread as well. Very similar to the postings about AI and the Sixers prior to his being traded. References to "one-on-one" play and a lot of shots and no ball movement, etc ... I saw one comment indicating they felt the trade was now officially "a failure", stating that their troubles began with that trade.

That being said, they still have a talented team and could still make the playoffs, I was just struck by the comments that appeared to be very similar to what was being said on this forum during the latter stages of the AI era.

[PhillyRocks1]

I am not buying into the West is sooo much better. Better yes, but not sooo much better. I just think the East has more parity in it.

[dbodner]

I am not buying into the West is sooo much better. Better yes, but not sooo much better. I just think the East has more parity in it.

You can't honestly believe that. The west is the definition of parity. The 1st seed and the 9th seed are separated by 6 games. The 10th seed has a .517 winning percentage.

In the east, it's the exact opposite. There's a 21.5 game difference between 1 and 9. There's a 6 game difference between 2 and 3. The 10th seed has a .400 winning percentage. 3 playoff teams have an under .500 winning percentage.

The west is the definition of deep. If by "parity" you mean "mediocrity", then yes, I agree. Otherwise, the east stinks. There's just no way to spin it otherwise. You certainly can't make the claim that the east has more parity or depth.

[big123]

I just took a peek at the Denver forum. Just wanted to see how the Denver fans are holding up with AI over there. Haven't been over there for quite a while.

I looked into the Houston/Denver topic. Whew !!! Brutal !!!!

Brings back memories ....

Yes ... life is good !!!!

No, it's not the same type of criticism as when he was in Philly. Most who complain about AI at the Denver forum are complete Melo homers who are mad he has to share the ball. When AI has a bad game, they all think if Melo would of shot more, they would of won. It's complete 12 year old ****. Plus most want AI to turn into Jason Kidd and be a true PG.

[big123]

This is where I think people are missing the forest from the tree's. Yeah, we might make the playoffs and denver not. That doesn't mean we're closer to making a championship run than the nuggets talent wise, and certainly doesn't mean "life is good".

You have a .600 team playing in the tough western conference, and we're a .450 team playing in the horrid eastern conference. The fact that we might sneak into the playoffs and them miss out doesn't mean we're a better team, and should not delude you into thinking we're ready to compete with the big boys.

I really do not have any idea why people want the Sixers to make the playoffs. It will be hard not to, but it would be in the Sixers best interest to not make it. Unless anyone thinks they can beat the Celtics or Pistons.

[big123]

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That venom was being spewed in the Houston/Denver game thread as well. Very similar to the postings about AI and the Sixers prior to his being traded. References to "one-on-one" play and a lot of shots and no ball movement, etc ... I saw one comment indicating they felt the trade was now officially "a failure", stating that their troubles began with that trade.

That being said, they still have a talented team and could still make the playoffs, I was just struck by the comments that appeared to be very similar to what was being said on this forum during the latter stages of the AI era.

Because most Nuggets fans think by getting AI to replace JR Smith while replacing Miller with Anthony Carter and Nene being out all year, they would magically be atop of arguably the toughest Western conference ever.

[Wade2k6]

I think they really miss Nene. He played pretty good late last season and against the Spurs in the playoffs. Also Atkins was going to be their starting point and has missed most of the year. So they have pretty much been without 40% of their starting lineup all season.

Just ran by this board real fast and saw your location. Did you happen to go to the Collingswood-Cinniminson game last night at Twp? That was one hell of a game...

[LieCheatSteal]

They have too many chiefs and very little indians there.

[dond]

No, it's not the same type of criticism as when he was in Philly. Most who complain about AI at the Denver forum are complete Melo homers who are mad he has to share the ball.

Well, that is true. They know that before the AI trade the Nuggets were getting stronger and Melo was emerging as a superstar. They now feel that Melo is deteriorating into a one-on-one jumpshooter and they blame AI for that. The reasons they give include Melo just shooting whenever he gets the ball because he is afraid he won't get another chance and they blame AI for that because he tends to keep the ball until he can get off a shot. That sounds like the same AI I observed here. The entire scenario is only different because they didn't bring in a teamate for AI to play with ... he was already there.

[Don_eMOCION#31]

I just took a peek at the Denver forum. Just wanted to see how the Denver fans are holding up with AI over there. Haven't been over there for quite a while.

I looked into the Houston/Denver topic. Whew !!! Brutal !!!!

Brings back memories ....

Yes ... life is good !!!!

no. the guys don't hate A.I. over there... there are 3 guys on the board who make iverson responsible for every lost game others look at the team

[Don_eMOCION#31]

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That venom was being spewed in the Houston/Denver game thread as well. Very similar to the postings about AI and the Sixers prior to his being traded. References to "one-on-one" play and a lot of shots and no ball movement, etc ... I saw one comment indicating they felt the trade was now officially "a failure", stating that their troubles began with that trade.

That being said, they still have a talented team and could still make the playoffs, I was just struck by the comments that appeared to be very similar to what was being said on this forum during the latter stages of the AI era.

the nuggets had the 3rd best record in franchise history after 50 games or something like this. but began to struggle after that and yes, if the nuggets don't make the playoffs with 50 wins while the sixers make it with a near .500 record something goes wrong in the nba

to say something about the lack of ball-movement. people with knowledge on the nuggets board talk about both. Melo and A.I. because melo doesn't pass at all. they have kind of similar stats ~26ppg while one averages 3 apg and the other one 7 apg. the problem about melo is that he always turns the ball over in game deciding moments the last 20...25 games? the problem is (like in philadelphia when iverson was there) that the nuggets don't have a good point guard now after the miller trade. they start Anthony Carter (a player who wouldn't start at any other team in the league) and play him for 30+ minutes a game. you can't run a creative offense with no good point guard on the team.

but hey. chucky atkins will come back friday after he was injured the whole season. and Nene will come back when playoffs start. surprising they're still that good with 2 Key players being injured the whole season

[phillyborn_jacksonite]

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if your hopes are riding on Chucky atkins and a guy who just diagnosed with cancer and will recieving kemo for the next month, then i worry for you. I am rooting for the nugs cuz i am an iverson fan, but they still play no defense and will not get past the first round until they come to the game ready to stop some people.

[Don_eMOCION#31]

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if your hopes are riding on Chucky atkins and a guy who just diagnosed with cancer and will recieving kemo for the next month, then i worry for you. I am rooting for the nugs cuz i am an iverson fan, but they still play no defense and will not get past the first round until they come to the game ready to stop some people.

chucky atkins is an amazing upgrade over a player like anthony carter. so yeah my hopes ride on him! same with nene. you seem to know much about them

nene won't receive chemo over the next month, he already received a one time chemo on tuesday (last week) and won't receive any more. he already builds his body into shape... but good to know how much you know about these guys. so if the nuggets play like they actually do without both of them you wanna tell me that they can't improve with both of them back in the lineup???

i think you are crazy if you really wanna tell me that or if you wanna tell me that chucky isn't way better than anthony carter

[Stanford]

Go back to your current bandwagon and take your stupid emotes with you.