goodbye tony allen (from the rotation)

[P2]

Rondo 30 - Cassell 18
Ray 32 - TA/House 16
Pierce 34 - Posey 14
KG 34 - Brown 14
Perk 24 - Baby/Powe 24

Brown will definitely play C, and not PF. But Baby will get what is left at the C minutes after Perk and Brown. I can also see House playing the 2, Tony the 3 and Posey at 4. This actually might work out pretty well.

[DarkAzcura]

House is going to (should I'd say...) lose minutes. He can't guard SGs, and all he does is shoot.

The defense Tony can bring against shooting guards is something we need (also his slashing is great on this primarly perimeter team).

[darrendaye]

Let's see how Cassell's addition impacts the team before making any bold statements one way or the other. Taking ballhandling responsibilities away from Tony helps make him a more valuable player. If he and Cassell mesh well on the second unit, offensively, a case is made for House becoming the situational guy. If not and/or Cassell shows he can guard the 2 while House defends the 1, perhaps the opposite occurs.

I sense there will be some situational-ness about how this impacts one of them (TA/House), but I also believe Doc would be ill-advised to go too schitzo with it. Each are pretty rhythm oriented players, TA moreso than House. I'll jump on this one in a couple of weeks after watching how things shake out.

[Bad-Thoma]

I'd be in the lean towards Eddie losing more minutes than Tony too, though I do wonder if Eddie will look a lot better with a point guard getting him some spot ups than he does trying to dribble against pressure. Either way, the depth, which hasn't been a problem anyways, just got a lot better.

[celticfan42487]

like everyone else said it depends on rotations.

I'd figure we'd need Tony's skills on most nights over House's.

House is a great spot up shooter, but we have a lot of perimeter oriented players. And Cassell can penetrate but it'd probuly be best for him to stay away from contact. Tony is our only other penetrator outside of Pierce. He brings balance to a team of shooters. Wich PJ Brown could end up some time doing as well.

Then you factor in Tony has the arm length to play at SG... he certianly isn't going to pushed completly out of a rotation because his competition is House.


I'm really kind of upset with the title of this thread though, I thought first Tony got hurt for the third year in a row again.... then I was like maybe it's just his agent saying he wants more money.... then I see it's someone's thoughts on the roation

[s1ickd]

i think tony allen is actually more valuable than house now because sam cassel can do everything house can, and has a much better all around offensive game (eddi's defense is sliiiiiightly better).

sam however cannot duplicate ANYTHING that tony allen does well. Tony is our only wing defender that can try and shut someone down. if we're in the playoffs against the cavs, expect a lot of TA and very little Eddie House. Hell, even against the PIstons, id rather see TA on Rip than Eddie.

Also, when the "bench" is in the game, you can't put House in the backcourt with Cassell because it would be the worst defensive backcourt of all time. Cassel, TA, Posey, Baby, and Powe is much more balanced and solid.

[Jammer]

The original poster is simply mistaken.

Tony and Eddie will both be available at shooting guard, depending on matchups and situation.

They are rotational players who will BOTH be resigned for next season.

Ray Allen may get a little more rest, as may Paul Pierce, with an extra scorer now available in Sam Cassell.

Other than that, the Celtics will likely use all of the probably 12 players that will active for the playoffs.

Pollard is out for the season, Pruitt will likely be inactive, and my guess is Scal will also.

[threrf23]

Tony Allen might not be as experienced but IMO is a better all around player than Cassell or House.

Unless House is shooting lights out on a given night, he just doesn't bring enough to the table to justify playing over Cassell or TA

[sully00]

It better be Eddie who is the odd man out, he was the Piston's player of the game he is friggin killing me right now.

[Kids Are Alright]

What was the technical that they called on Tony? He makes the drive to the hoop, leaves the ball nicely for Rip and runs down the court rolling his head with a goofy smile and gets T'd for it?

[canman1971]

It better be Eddie who is the odd man out, he was the Piston's player of the game he is friggin killing me right now.

Yep, Eddies strength is getting the ball on a swing around or kick out to hit an open jumper, not trying to create for others, never mind himself.

[Mahoney_jr]

If you had the time to seach for long gone topics, you'd see that I didn't like the House-signing. But if he'd be a 10th guy in the roster for special situations (like a needed comeback ;) ) I'm fine with him.

With Cassell I think Allen will be the first SG off the bench and a obviously a part of the rotation in the playoffs.

[sully00]

What was the technical that they called on Tony? He makes the drive to the hoop, leaves the ball nicely for Rip and runs down the court rolling his head with a goofy smile and gets T'd for it?

Tony went to the floor from an obvious foul on the hoop and yelled for the and one and the knucklhead ref decided to T him up to compound his stupidity of blowing the call. Which resulted in a terrible call against the Pistons and Billups being given an unwarranted technical as a make up. NBA officiating it is fantastic.