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Post#1 » by Cammo101 » Sat Mar 8, 2008 11:57 pm

This is how I rate the players for this years draft. There are a decent amount of guys on this list I don't think will be in this draft, but I rank anyone I think has an ok chance of declaring.


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Post#2 » by NBAMAN2006 » Sun Mar 9, 2008 1:06 am

Mayo should be moves up to 4 with everyone else being bumped down a spot.

Also, I think Maarty Luenen should make a debut in the top 60. He reminds me of a cross between Brian Cardinal and Austin Crosure.


I like it other than that.
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Post#3 » by -G- » Sun Mar 9, 2008 1:30 am

I think DeAndre Jordan sucks. I guess it's just me.
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Post#4 » by NBAMAN2006 » Sun Mar 9, 2008 1:38 am

He does suck, but he has great potential.

He wont fall past 10 IMO, although personally I like Thabeet more.
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Post#5 » by theGreatRC » Sun Mar 9, 2008 2:47 am

I'm glad you didn't have Mayo so high like people are thinking.
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Post#6 » by deeney0 » Sun Mar 9, 2008 2:56 am

I think that's crazy high for DJ Augustin.
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Post#7 » by revprodeji » Sun Mar 9, 2008 3:18 am

theGreatRC wrote:I'm glad you didn't have Mayo so high like people are thinking.


Mayo should be ahead of Greene and Bayless. I am a Greene fan, but Mayo is going to go crazy next year. Kid is just going thru the motions right now and staying healthy. He knows he has nothing to prove until next year. Kid will take over.

At worse the kid is Larry Hughes with an outside shot.
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Post#8 » by ponder276 » Sun Mar 9, 2008 3:31 am

Cool, I like this "big board" idea a lot better than the mock draft. What's the point of taking team needs into account when we really don't know who will be picking where?
I think you might have Augustin and Jordan a little high, Randolph, Koufos, CDR and Hansborough a little low, but overall a very good job as always.
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Post#9 » by hard49 » Sun Mar 9, 2008 3:40 am

Brook Lopez to high, Mayo should actually be #3.
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Post#10 » by nitetrain8603 » Sun Mar 9, 2008 4:11 am

Mayo should be #2 because he's better than Rose.
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Post#11 » by moocow007 » Sun Mar 9, 2008 6:14 am

deeney0 wrote:I think that's crazy high for DJ Augustin.


Yeah, I agree.
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Post#12 » by Griff83 » Sun Mar 9, 2008 7:24 am

If Earl Clark decided to declare where abouts would he go in the first round?
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Post#13 » by The_Pope » Sun Mar 9, 2008 12:23 pm

If Anthony Randolphy declares I'm almost certain he goes much higher than 18.
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Post#14 » by BigSlam » Sun Mar 9, 2008 1:34 pm

Hibbert should be higher than Lopez. He'll have a much better NBA career.
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Post#15 » by Cammo101 » Sun Mar 9, 2008 3:04 pm

ponder276 wrote:Cool, I like this "big board" idea a lot better than the mock draft. What's the point of taking team needs into account when we really don't know who will be picking where?
I think you might have Augustin and Jordan a little high, Randolph, Koufos, CDR and Hansborough a little low, but overall a very good job as always.


I have always done both, I just do the mocks more frequently because with the picking order always changing it seems less repetitive.
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Post#16 » by Cammo101 » Sun Mar 9, 2008 3:06 pm

Griff83 wrote:If Earl Clark decided to declare where abouts would he go in the first round?


I don't think he would go in the 1st round, and I think Pitino is smart enough to know that and keep him in school. He would prolly be in the 30s or early 40s on this list.
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Post#17 » by BigSlam » Sun Mar 9, 2008 4:13 pm

You don't list Taj Gibson?? Every time I have seen him, last year and this year, I've been impressed with his positioning when reboudning, length when blocking shots, ability to get up and down the court and this year he's even added some reliable post moves.
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Post#18 » by Cammo101 » Sun Mar 9, 2008 4:19 pm

BigSlam wrote:You don't list Taj Gibson?? Every time I have seen him, last year and this year, I've been impressed with his positioning when reboudning, length when blocking shots, ability to get up and down the court and this year he's even added some reliable post moves.


He was actually the last person not to make the list. So consider him #61. I think Gibson is pretty limited and if he came out he would be lucky to be drafted. He should return to school and continue to become more well rounded. With Mayo and Jefferson possibly leaving, the team would be much more his next year.
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Post#19 » by ICanOutreboundWalter » Sun Mar 9, 2008 7:15 pm

When you wrote 5'11" PG next to Augustins name, that should have been a tipoff to bump him down a little from 5.
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Post#20 » by Jonathan Watters » Sun Mar 9, 2008 7:45 pm

Cammo, you do a great job with your lists. One of the few people around here who actually attempts to scout the draft the way it should be scouted. You don't get hung up on your own opinions, are always looking for new information, and are quite thorough.

Just a few comments -

1) Not seeing DeAndre Jordan that high. Maybe he shocks us all, figures out how to play the game, loses the attitude, and develops a work ethic. I think he ought to stay an extra year and learn those things in college. Of course, he's so far behind the curve that if he stayed another year he'd get exposed - thus, he'd be absolutely insane not to declare this year.

2) I don't understand why people can't jump on the Brook Lopez bandwagon. He's the best 2-way player in college basketball, period. And his game absolutely translates to the next level. He's a 6'11, 260 pound center that is going to be able to put up a fight against the Yao's and Howard's of the league, and he's got a semblance of an offensive game even at the pro level. Tim Duncan still gets underrated by everybody to this day, and Lopez is a poor man's Duncan. Tons of people sleeping on this guy, because he doesn't make sportscenter worthy plays and because he doesn't make sportscenter due to playing on the west coast. I've been saying all these things since last fall, and you are obviously making the right call here.

3) Agreed on Augustin. The guy is a world-beater, controls a game in the way very few PG's can on any level. That part of his game isn't going anywhere, and teams that need a PG will be falling over themselves to draft this guy. Many have compared him to Chris Paul, but the player that always pops into my mind is Terrell Brandon. Just always a step ahead of the competition mentally, and has the natural tools to make up for his lack of size.

4) Donte Green is too high, IMO. I just don't see a Top 10 team drafting a 6'11 athletic freak so focused on the perimeter he can't even shoot 40% from the field in conference play. Obivously he gets drafted somewhere in the first round, but there are so many other viable options in this range that I think he falls.

5) I know you were high on Hibbert at one time, what made you change your mind? He's doing exactly what he did last year, saving his best for last. Thompson III has finally convinced the guards that he's worth passing the ball to, and G'Town has definitely taken it up a notch in recent games (amazing how that happens, isn't it?). I think Hibbert is a steal if he falls outside the Top 10.

6) I haven't seen Batum yet this year, but I can tell you he has as spectular a raw skillset as anybody in this draft outside of Beasley. He's a steal at 15. An absolute steal. Of course, this draft is very deep. Any of the Top 15 prospects that go at #15 is a steal. The lottery appears to be much less of an issue this year for that reason.

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