Official Game Thread: Nets @ Mavs (Game 63)

Serpo · Post #101 » by **Serpo** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 4:18 am

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Yeah Williams played so well tonight, no need for Swift in the lineup anyways.

Sean can actually still develop , Swift won't get any better anymore .
If both play bad i prefer the one with room for improvement.

jcrack32 · Post #102 » by **jcrack32** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 4:24 am

stro4swift wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yeah Williams played so well tonight, no need for Swift in the lineup anyways.

You're not looking at the big picture here. SWAT and Swift are similar players...similar skill sets, strengths and unfortunately similar weakness. Physically the same body type and freakishly athletic. Why then would the Nets elect to give minutes to the 8 year guy over their number 1 pick in the draft? I say give the rookie the minutes and lets see him work through his mistakes. What do we have to lose??

jcrack32 · Post #103 » by **jcrack32** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 4:27 am

Serpo wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Sound like another Josh McRoberts or something ?

Don't know much about College Ball since i can't really follow it cause i'm not American.

IMO, he's very similar to Josh McRoberts. Don't get me wrong, Hansbrough is a better player but still more of a college player than a pro player.

halfHAVOC · Post #104 » by **halfHAVOC** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 4:28 am

well the game sucked but.

atleast i got this!

stro4swift · Post #105 » by **stro4swift** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 4:33 am

jcrack32 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

You're not looking at the big picture here. SWAT and Swift are similar players...similar skill sets, strengths and unfortunately similar weakness. Physically the same body type and freakishly athletic. Why then would the Nets elect to give minutes to the 8 year guy over their number 1 pick in the draft? I say give the rookie the minutes and lets see him work through his mistakes. What do we have to lose??

I totally agree with the points you're making, but tonight SWill sucked and didn't deserve that last appearance in my honest opinion.

I guess I'm just frustrated that everyone played tonight except for Swift...

stro4swift · Post #106 » by **stro4swift** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 4:34 am

halfHAVOC wrote:well the game sucked but.

atleast i got this!
(picture)

nice pickup HAVOC!

halfHAVOC · Post #107 » by **halfHAVOC** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 4:35 am

stro4swift wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

nice pickup HAVOC!

lmao i got it for 34 bucks off ebay !!!

60cent · Post #108 » by **60cent** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 4:43 am

jcrack32 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The Nets need to steer clear of Hansbrough. He has college player written all over him. He's a college star but I don't see it translating to the pro level. He has He doesn't have the size to play the 4/5 nor the speed to play the 3. a ton of heart and energy but isn't overly athletic. Just don't see where he'll succeed on our team.

Many said the same thing with Craig Smith, Ryan Gomes and Nick Collison or even Carlos Boozer (thats why he was drafted on the 2nd round). But look how they're doing now... still in the league and some are getting lots of playing time, the other one is an all star

I think Hansbrough will be better than most of them. Just like what you have said... a ton of heart and energy. That's what we need right now, that big time hussle.

jcrack32 · Post #109 » by **jcrack32** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 5:01 am

Out of that group of players, I would only put Collison as being in the similar category with Hansbrough. Neither Collison nor Hansbrough showed a great offensive game in college...no real post moves or a consistent jumper Both scored off hustle and outworking their opponent. You can get away w/ dominating players on the college level with that but its very difficult to do that in the NBA. Collison is one of the few players in the NBA to succeed w/ that. I wouldn't risk a first round pick on that type player. A second round pick...I can see that.

MrDollarBills · Post #110 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 5:57 pm

You know things are going well when the end of a game thread is dominated by draft talk

Did anyone see RJ and Kidd's conversation at the end of the game? It looked they were both laughing at the horrible offensive/defensive system Lawrence Frank has in place. This is a disgrace

Carter, Jefferson, and Harris need to start ignoring whatever Frank says and going for broke. We won't win any other way. Its baffling how some idiot decides to call plays that keep the ball out of the best player's hands right after he gets hot. There needs to be a mutiny, thats the only way that this idiot gets fired.

Serpo · Post #111 » by **Serpo** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 6:00 pm

To be honest it already looks like they're ignoring everything . Carter has almost zero movement without the ball , RJ takes too many jumpers and Harris too many threes.

Franks biggest problem is in my mind he give the players too much freedom , you can't tell everybody to shoot if they're open .

Some players will just start to take stupid shots all the time .

MrDollarBills · Post #112 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 6:08 pm

Good observation Serpo, it's a shame though that the president of basketball operations hasn't been able to notice that the coach has lost this team like a set of house keys.

Or notice that this man is not, and has never been, qualified to coach a basketball team on the NBA level. Or the d league level. Or the college level. Or the high school level. Or the AAU level. Or the rec league level. Or the YMCA Saturday morning level. Did i leave anything out?

Serpo · Post #113 » by **Serpo** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 6:10 pm

He's been a very good asistant but he just handles the players wrong as a head coach.

MrDollarBills · Post #114 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 6:15 pm

He's been good at assisting this team into the toilet bowl.

For someone who allegedly spends hours viewing video tape, he's absolutely clueless.

And another thing, if you ask me, the guy has his head up his arse.

MyGoatskates · Post #115 » by **MyGoatskates** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 8:37 pm

jcrack32 wrote:Out of that group of players, I would only put Collison as being in the similar category with Hansbrough. Neither Collison nor Hansbrough showed a great offensive game in college...no real post moves or a consistent jumper Both scored off hustle and outworking their opponent. You can get away w/ dominating players on the college level with that but its very difficult to do that in the NBA. Collison is one of the few players in the NBA to succeed w/ that. I wouldn't risk a first round pick on that type player. A second round pick...I can see that.

The point is not to write off prospects simply because they're too short or don't have great athleticism. Craig Smith and Paul Millsap didn't have great offesive games in college, and neither is an athletic freak. But they're producing. Boozer, Gomes, Haslem, Glen Davis, Reggie Evans, Leon Powe, the list goes on. There are legitimate concerns about Hansbrough, but it would be foolish to say he has no future int he NBA. He's not a star and not worth a lottery pick, but he's had a better college career than any of the players mentioned above.