Point Guard of the Future

[GreenWithEnvy]

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Juan Dixon, Eddie House? Stuckey looks like Billups to me. He's no Steve Nash or Chris Paul, but he has the lead guard potential and tools of a Chauncey Billups and Derek Harper. Juan Dixon, Eddie House?

people never read what i write anymore. i said CATEGORY! hes a guy who will play the point his entire career but will be much more suited at the two. Is Arenas a better comparison? im not comparing skill sets im comparing the type of player. I don't see any of Billups in him. He attacks the basket more and is a more athletic finisher. He runs the offense like Billups because he learned if from him but put him on a different team and hell be much more of a force.

[carltong23]

Rondo accomplished far more in his rookie season than Critt and Rondo averaged more minutes per game last season than Telfair.

My point exactly. I just explained to you that Rondo didnt have to compete with anybody his rookie year that was even that good and he played for a terrible team so he had no excuse. He couldnt even beat out Delonte West because he had no jump shot. You also failed to mention in your criticism of Crittenton, that he only played in 2 games where he got significant minutes. In only 2 games did he get more than 30+ minutes. And what did he do with those 30 minutes? Averaged 19.5 points and 4 assists. Pretty good for a rookie. But its nice how you use just your opinions to make an arguement instead of using facts.

Did I say that Telfair had more minutes than Rondo? No, I didnt so I have no idea why you brought that up. You dont have anything worth while to say so you're agruing things that are completely off topic. Why dont you just sit this one out.

[Skates]

I like Stuckey alot and think he'll be a good player, but he's a classic combo guard. Lou Williams has already admitted his future lies as a SG/combo guard. He does an admirable job of handling the point for stretches, but he's no full time PG.

I agree with the poster who stated earlier that Marcus Williams is our likely PG of the future. He has played well for NJ since recovering from his injury and with the departure of Kidd. Harris is now starting, but Williams is playing very well off the bench. He is a former Stefanski draft pick and he can hit the three with regularity, at least in recent games. I expect a deal for Williams will occur around the time of the draft, maybe Rodney Carney and swap our pick for the Dallas pick that the Nets received for Kidd.

[SendEm]

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people never read what i write anymore. i said CATEGORY! hes a guy who will play the point his entire career but will be much more suited at the two. Is Arenas a better comparison? im not comparing skill sets im comparing the type of player. I don't see any of Billups in him. He attacks the basket more and is a more athletic finisher. He runs the offense like Billups because he learned if from him but put him on a different team and hell be much more of a force.

I see. But I disagree that he would be much more of a "force" if he began his career on another team. Sure he would score many more points but he would just be another combo guard waisting the early parts of his career taking advantage of his superior scoring ability instead of learning how to run an offense. A guard that can truly run an offense is a greater "force" than a perimeter scorer in my opinion. So in him playing fewer minutes per game while learning how to be a true NBA PG he is having a significant force on that Detroit franchise. Remember Chauncey wasn't a pure PG entering the league. Arenas was on track to be a pure PG for the Warriors but his role and development for the Wizards had to be different considering they didn't have any talent back then.

[carltong23]

I like Stuckey alot and think he'll be a good player, but he's a classic combo guard. Lou Williams has already admitted his future lies as a SG/combo guard. He does an admirable job of handling the point for stretches, but he's no full time PG.

I agree with the poster who stated earlier that Marcus Williams is our likely PG of the future. He has played well for NJ since recovering from his injury and with the departure of Kidd. Harris is now starting, but Williams is playing very well off the bench. He is a former Stefanski draft pick and he can hit the three with regularity, at least in recent games. I expect a deal for Williams will occur around the time of the draft, maybe Rodney Carney and swap our pick for the Dallas pick that the Nets received for Kidd.

Im not sure what makes people think Williams is available. Just because Stefanski is our GM doesnt mean the Nets are going to give away their players. We made a bad decision by picking Carney over Williams. Why would they bail us out and give us Williams for Carney? Also, just because Devin Harris is there, doesnt make Williams available. Harris does still need a backup. I dont see why they would trade Williams and create another hole at the backup PG spot. But I do like Williams though

[SendEm]

Williams is a step up from Critt but Williams will always be a poor defender. He's a bad outside shooter right now but I can't say that will continue to be the case. His comparison would probably be Philadelphia's own Pooh Richardson or possibly even a short Mark Jackson. But in reality I don't see Williams being much of a competitor for his entire career. I envision him signing his first big money contract and losing all incentive to improve and compete until his next contract year approaches...

[tk76]

It's hard top know what type of PG will be the best fit for this team moving forward.

We need a PG who can pushg the tempo and lead the break (which Lou can do),, but we still are up in the air about our 1/2 court offense. Right now, Miller fills a need with his half court passing and midrange/extended post skills.

After this summer, we will know what direction our 1/2 court offense in going in. Will we shift Thad to the 3 (and Iguodala to the 2)- then we would need a PG who is more of a shooter and ball handler (Calderon would be ideal but not likely obtainable.)

If we keep Iguodala at SF and upgarde our SG with a better pure shooter and then mix in Thad at SF/PF along with another long athlete at PF (like a Warrick or Josh Smith) then we coould go more with a slasher in the Lou or Critt mold.

I don't see how Marcus Williams would fit. He has the upside to be a Miller type PG, but likely would not be a good fit on defensive traps or jump shooting. He fits better on a more half court, motion type offense that can take advantage of his passing skills.

[carltong23]

Personally, I dont think its that complicated. We're not in any postion to be picky. For our point gaurd of the future, we need to get the player with the most talent/potential, period. Some think its Crittenton or Lowry, others think its Louis or Marcus Wiliams. Regardless, we need to get the best player and worry about whether a guy is half court or uptempo. Besides, all of these guys are still very young, so no matter what these guys weaknesses and strengths are they'll likely improve on them given playing time.

[Skates]

In 11 games since starting to play regularly Marcus Williams has hit 48% of his threes (23 made, 48 attempted) and has hit 43% from the field total. It looks more like he needs to work on his mid-range game than his long-distance shooting. As far as leading the break, the Sixers are pushing the ball with the pass, not the dribble. If Williams could play like a younger Andre Miller I'd be very happy, I'm not saying he would, but if he could I would have no complaints. The character issue will always be there with Williams, but Stefanski drafted him and watched him in practice for nearly two years. He should have a pretty good handle on whether he can handle being a starter in this league. Defensively a back-up like Lowry would be a nice complement to Miller or Williams.

[tk76]

I haven't watched Williams much since college, so maybe I don't have the best handle on his game. If he developed into a dangerous three point threat that woupld certainly fill a need.

[Skates]

I haven't watched Williams much since college, so maybe I don't have the best handle on his game. If he developed into a dangerous three point threat that woupld certainly fill a need.

He hasn't really played all that much between Jason Kidd and a number of injuries. I recall some definite concern about his weight coming out of college. The big question is whether he was immature with all of the weight/character issues in college or is he a bad guy? Hopefully, Stefanski knows the answer and acts accordingly.

[freshie2]

Crittenton isn't a bad gamble, who knows what they are going to do in Memphis. That Gasol deal is still unbelievable.

[LieCheatSteal]

Why is there a team in Memphis?

Honestly. What a waste of an NBA team. This team might as well do what they do in soccer in Europe. Just sell all your players, Memphis. And, while I'm at it, their owner should go to hell for robbing Vancouver of a team. Could have worked in Vancouver. I blame Heisley and Stu Jackson. Stu makes Isaiah look like a genius.

And, you know what? This is going to happen again in Oklahoma City when the Sonics leave a highly profitable, rich market in Seattle.

As for the topic at hand, I'd rather get a more proven PG at this point. Crit has played not more than maybe a quarter of a season. What about Lowry? Cheaper yet proven. Also, I would not want Cardinal's contract, unless you like hustle, mucker types and you like overpaying them.

[Sandalf42]

I myself am a big fan of Marcus Williams. I live in NY, and my older brother is a HUGE Nets fan, so I see him play alot.

His passing skills are amazing, and his shot and decision making skills are improving. Think of a younger Andre Miller with a jump shot. IMO, we HAVE to get this guy, and preferably, without giving away any major pieces.

Louis Williams might be our PG of the future, but he's more of a scorer then a facilitator, and I'd rather have the latter.

But if we could get any of the 4 (Marcus Williams, Kyle Lowry, Mike Conley, Javaris Critteron) for next to nothing, I would be estatic.

[UptownPhilly]

Assuming that we keep Miller for at least one more year, would anyone be against trading Louis Williams for a young PG with similar talent/upside such as Marcus Williams?

[ITK9]

i wouldn't trade lou for marcus.lou's potential is much bigger imho.but, i would trade him for mike conley

[Skates]

Assuming that we keep Miller for at least one more year, would anyone be against trading Louis Williams for a young PG with similar talent/upside such as Marcus Williams?

More likely NJ is looking for size, would you trade Jason Smith for Marcus Williams?

As to the question of why there is an NBA team in Memphis, I think their onwer and GM are trying to fix that by downgrading the talent to NBDL level.

More likely they end up in Seattle or Oklahoma City down the road.

[UptownPhilly]

I would trade Jason Smith for Marcus Williams.

I see the Sixers going big in this years draft/free agency.

Smith will be the odd man out in Cheeks' rotation.

We already know how infatuated Cheeks is with Young, Evans, and Dalembert. Add a Josh Smith, Okafor, Biedrins, etc. to the equation and Smith is on the way out.

He can still log minutes at C, but he'd be better off at PF.

[carltong23]

Why trade Louis Williams, Jason Smith, or anybody for Marcus Williams when the whole point of this thread centers around the fact that we have enough cap space to acquire a player without giving up anything but a trade exception and/or a first round pick.