Gerald Green released by Houston

[eitanr]

Two schools of thought here:
1. I think it's a smart idea in general for the C's to start developing younger players for the future. Right now we have one young player getting serious minutes who does have star potential in Rondo. I feel the C's clearly don't need or want a full blown youth movement going, but it'd be wise to think about developing a wing and a big for the future (Big Baby is a candidate in the big regard). The C's do not currently have a young wing to develop (Tony Allen is turning 27), so maybe GG is a nice candidate.

2. Signing GG now would make no sense since he won't learn much and won't be on the playoff roster anyhow. I would agree that putting him with Ray and PP can only help is weak BBIQ, but is it all worth it? It only makes sense to sign him to a long (3 years) cheap contract next season, but even that's not worth it. In the prime of this vet group, does managment really want to sacrifice extra money and a roster spot to develop a weak minded 2-guard. I'd think that roster spot could be best served for a veteran big off the bench or Sam Cassel.

Resolution: It's defintley wise to start thinking about developing a nice wing or other position player. Ainge can easily find someone nice to develop with the 30th pick in the draft that will be a lot better than GG any day. It's not worth spending dough or a roster spot on him at this point.

That being said the best thing for GG would be to sign on with a team looking to rebuild that is not very good (Memphis, NY, NJ) or one that lacks wing depth (ORL, UTA). GG won't be NBA homeless for long. Teams tend to give players many chances before never signing them again....see Omar Cook as a prime example.

[greenbeans]

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ohhhhhh snap

[celtxman]

I'm not going to bash Wally, but even Tommy Thibodeau couldn't teach those knees the lateral quickness it requires to man up a sf. Ray brings a lot more to the table as far as being able to run a guy of picks to get open, he can and has pulled some Rip Hamilton's moving without the ball at times. That being said, I never had a problem with Wally, his defense sucks but it wasn't for lack of effort, he just couldn't stay in front of anyone and at the time the team didn't exactly have a consistent presence in the paint to try to funnel someone to. Ray is much better going to the basket too, he's got speed and lift over Wally in a big way.

Since this is obviously a reasonable, non-hating post in regards to the subject, I'll answer this one.
Ray Allen is a better defensive and overall player to Wally, which was never what the post was about. The difference isn't as great as others have mentioned - it's about a good player who really wasn't totally healthy on the team at the same time Pierce wasn't. This team would be successful with Wally in Allen's spot, but Boston correctly got Allen instead. Getting even a little better at each spot could mean the difference between a championship or not and Allen has proven to be able to hit big shots. It is good to see him really start to get it going.
Wally's lateral motion and overall defense were not as good as Allen but not as problematic in any real results. Ray may be better going to the basket but Wally posted better and was a load physically for smaller players.
He's gone....hope he goes 0-14 against the Celtics with 8 turnovers- but he was a good, classy player while he played in Green.

[JiriMania]

Gerald, Wally, Raef, Delonte, Marcus, Blount, Davis, Gomes, Toine.....pretty much everyone except Big Al, we've got to let these guys go, we're so much better without them. Bon voyage, thanks for playing hard, etc.


A couple of years ago, a bunch of us were still pining for Brandon Hunter and Jiri (but not Walter).

I'm sure I don't know WHAT you're talking about...

[GuyClinch]

He's gone....hope he goes 0-14 against the Celtics with 8 turnovers- but he was a good, classy player while he played in Green.

He wasn't good.

http://www.82games.com/0607/06BOS8C.HTM

-2.3 PER at SF - the position he played most with Cs. He was inferior to his opponents. The team did not win with him. There is no way you can spin "good" out of the play of Wally. Try "below average with a near max salary.."

As for "classy" what pray tell made Wally "classy" in comparison to our other SF we have had? I'd really like to know.

pete

[Dogen]

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I'm sure I don't know WHAT you're talking about...

Don't feel bad, Jirimania, a lot of us were on that bandwagon, including Danny Ainge.

[jfs1000d]

Ray is a slightly better shooter than Wally. But, RAy's offensive game is much more versatile and devastating. Ray can take it to the basket and finish. Ray can also pull up on a dime. Wally is a spot up shooter. Ray is best off the dribble.

They look like similar players on the stat sheet but they can't be any more different. And, Ray's defense has been tremendous IMO. He makes the other shooting guard at least work.

oh, and g-money stinks.

[jfs1000d]

Ray is a slightly better shooter than Wally. But, RAy's offensive game is much more versatile and devastating. Ray can take it to the basket and finish. Ray can also pull up on a dime. Wally is a spot up shooter. Ray is best off the dribble.

They look like similar players on the stat sheet but they can't be any more different. And, Ray's defense has been tremendous IMO. He makes the other shooting guard at least work.

oh, and g-money stinks.

[NickHexum]

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Given Gerald's poor fundamentals, I'm not sure he'd make a dleague team or a team overseas. Remember he never played well in summer league or the dleague against much weaker competition.

Dude, a slow, 6-1 kid from my high school who sat on the bench at Providence for one year played in Europe for 10 seasons and banked over $500K/per. I guarantee there's a place in Europe for G-dub...heck, he could take the route of Anthony Parker - - play overseas for a few years, learn more of the game and gain experience, then come back to the NBA and be able to contribute.

BTW- Kedrick Brown is still kicking around and there were rumors of teams looking at him this season about potentially bringing him in....therefore, there's sill hope for Gerald. I mean, is he really that much worse then JR Smith in Denver? I think he just needs to be in the right situation.

[GuyClinch]

There is "hope" for Gerald Green but it's more Fred Jones (Indiana) hope then T-Mac hope. Kedrick could have stuck around as a fringe player if he didn't take those years off for no good reason..

Pete