Draft Day Trade Idea Wolves/Blazers

DmoneyH3 · Post #1 » by **DmoneyH3** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:19 am

Lets say Minny gets the #2 pick and picks Rose because MB is gone.

Would you deal Foye for #13, 2nd round pick, and a filler (Channing/Jarret/Sergio,etc)

Post #2 » by **TheFranchise21** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:24 am

I wouldn't do it.

deeney0 · Post #3 » by **deeney0** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:46 am

Nor would I.

DmoneyH3 · Post #4 » by **DmoneyH3** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:50 am

If you took Rose, you would almost certainly have to deal Foye, in general, what are you guys looking for in return?

deeney0 · Post #5 » by **deeney0** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:54 am

Disagree with that general premise; Foye can play off the ball, he was splitting time at both guard spots until Bassy got hurt.

DmoneyH3 · Post #6 » by **DmoneyH3** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:02 am

I heard that Foye wants to play point guard, which I why I made the assumption. Also, I do not think Foye would be a very effective shooting guard for prolonged periods of time.

Krapinsky · Post #7 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:06 am

If we took Rose, I'd do a Foye + Jaric + 2nd for #13 + Fernandez + Pryz swap

Don't know if you guys would let go of Fernandez though

NBAMAN2006 · Post #8 » by **NBAMAN2006** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:10 am

Jesus that last deal is laughable for Portland.

Krapinsky · Post #9 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:15 am

NBAMAN2006 wrote:Jesus that last deal is laughable for Portland.

Well, that gives you an idea of how highly we value "the key".

Just like you think Foye would be a commodity for us if we drafted Foye, Fernandez (behind Roy), and Pryz (behind Oden) are commodities for Portland as well.

Post #10 » by **Spykes** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:15 am

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:If we took Rose, I'd do a Foye + Jaric + 2nd for #13 + Fernandez + Pryz swap

Don't know if you guys would let go of Fernandez though

Blazers certainly wouldn't touch this deal. Przybilla is going to continue to be a valuable player for the Blazers, even with Oden coming back next year. And you're correct that Portland won't be willing to let go of Fernandez.

Here's a counter offer that'll likely be rejected...

Jaric
Buckner
Foye

for

LaFrentz
Jack
#13 Pick

Portland gets Foye, but also gets stuck holding the bill by having to take on the Wolves worst 2 contracts.

Timberwolves take Rose to be their PG of the future, get another lottery pick and dump some ugly salary.

To be completely honest, I don't see either team being all that interested in making a deal. For one, I doubt Portland would be willing to take on that much salary for Foye after the year hes had battling injuries. Also, I think the Wolves would rather just keep their bad contracts and keep Foye to see how he plays next to Rose.

deeney0 · Post #11 » by **deeney0** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:19 am

Buckner is only guarenteed this year and next. He is not a bad contract next year, he's an EXPIRING contract.

DmoneyH3 · Post #12 » by **DmoneyH3** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:22 am

Pryz Rudy and #13 for Foye...c'mon dude...13 and a guy like jack is a fair deal imo...

deeney0 · Post #13 » by **deeney0** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:23 am

DmoneyH3 wrote:Pryz Rudy and #13 for Foye...c'mon dude...13 and a guy like jack is a fair deal imo...

No, it's not even close - and not only that, Wolves won't be trading Foye for just a "fair deal." It would taking significantly overpaying to pry him away.

Krapinsky · Post #14 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:24 am

Hmm... If I'm the Wolves I want Fernandez coming back.

How far away is Foye for #13 + Fernandez? Leave Pryz/Jaric out of the deal.

DmoneyH3 · Post #15 » by **DmoneyH3** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:59 am

I'm biased, but just from the videos, I like Fernandez over many of the upcoming draft prospects. A lot of Portland fans value him highly and as a part of the core group of guys with Oden,Roy,Travis,LMA.
I haven't seen much of Foye this year, but I see he has shown some promise, but I think #13 and a prospect like Rudy is out of the question imo.
I would really rather draft Westbrook at 13, but like the title says, it is an idea. If Westbrook couldn't be attained, I thought Foye would work well with Brandon. #13 and Jarrett/Channing seems fair to me but maybe I am underestimating Foye. I would throw in Joel Freeland a fomrer 1st round pick developing over in Europe, but that's about it.

Post #16 » by **Spykes** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:03 am

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:Hmm... If I'm the Wolves I want Fernandez coming back.

How far away is Foye for #13 + Fernandez? Leave Pryz/Jaric out of the deal.

If it looks like Fernandez is going to stay overseas for another season or two, then I'd consider it. But then again, I'm not Kevin Pritchard, and with the way he talks about Fernandez, I seriously doubt he'd move him for Foye.

Although, Portland would have to add in some sort of salary to this deal as Fernandez isn't signed to any kind of a contract, the Blazers just hold his rights. At that point, it makes things quite a bit more lopsided.

Buckner is only guarenteed this year and next. He is not a bad contract next year, he's an EXPIRING contract.

Madsen could replace Buckner.

Not that it really matters. As again, I really don't see either side doing a deal like this. I don't think the Blazers value Foye high enough to accept the Wolves price and I think the Wolves would want to see how a Rose and Foye backcourt works (which could be good pretty good, albeit a undersized a la Chicago's Hinrich and Gordon duo) before deciding one has to go. And who knows, maybe a Center emerges during March Madness that could challenge for the #2 pick? Unlikely, but you never know....

Krapinsky · Post #17 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:09 am

Was Fernandez ever put into the Harris rumors?

I think most Wolves fans would agree we see Foye's ceiling as being higher than Harris'.

What was your package for Harris again? Outlaw/Jack/Frye or something?

farzi · Post #18 » by **farzi** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:26 am

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:Was Fernandez ever put into the Harris rumors?

I think most Wolves fans would agree we see Foye's ceiling as being higher than Harris'.

What was your package for Harris again? Outlaw/Jack/Frye or something?

Well Jack + Lafrentz almost netted us Kidd, So Jack + 13 would be about right

DmoneyH3 · Post #19 » by **DmoneyH3** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:34 am

Jack Channing Trav was not offered for Harris. It was reported in a rumor, but Pritchard didnt not offer that.

Post #20 » by **Spykes** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:40 am

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:Was Fernandez ever put into the Harris rumors?

I think most Wolves fans would agree we see Foye's ceiling as being higher than Harris'.

What was your package for Harris again? Outlaw/Jack/Frye or something?

No, Fernandez was never in the Harris rumors.

The Harris rumors went through a number of different variations. Outlaw + Jack + Frye was one of them, then there was a rumor that had those 3 players AND Portland's Pick for Harris and Bass. There was also reportedly a version with Sergio involved, but they never said exactly what was supposed to be in that package. Regardless of the rumor, it clearly wasn't that close to happening as nothing came of it.