Would a different superstar lead CAVS to a better record?

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Would a different superstar lead CAVS to a better record this season?

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Post#21 » by exkonvict » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:18 pm

legacyinthemakin89c wrote:Yeah Kobe could lead this team to the playoffs

West/Boobie
Bryant/Sasha
Wally/Bryant?
Wallace/Varejao
Big Z/Varejao


That's a championship team playing in the East. FOUR All-Stars.
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Post#22 » by prekazi » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:19 pm

Not even Kobe or Duncan can lead this team to back to back 50 wins and Leastern Championship because team is coached(?) by Mike Brown not Phil Jackson or Gregg Popovich.
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Post#23 » by Andrew Bynasty » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:20 pm

Whether its LeBrons fault or the coaches fault, LeBron dominating the ball all game long isnt gonna win anything for the Cavs. Last nights game was a perfect example of that. In the 4th quarter, there wasnt a single possession where he didnt have the ball for 10+ seconds. (Im sure thats not true, but it sure as hell seemed like it)
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Post#24 » by Cevap » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:22 pm

prekazi wrote:Not even Kobe or Duncan can lead this team to back to back 50 wins and Leastern Championship because team is coached(?) by Mike Brown not Phil Jackson or Gregg Popovich.


popovich is overrated imo
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Post#25 » by HouMac » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:23 pm

LABallaz08 wrote:Whether its LeBrons fault or the coaches fault, LeBron dominating the ball all game long isnt gonna win anything for the Cavs.


If by 'anything' you mean a championship, then you're right(for now). Because Cleveland's won plenty with LeBron carrying them. This season w/ LeBron they're also winning at a better rate than they ever have since drafting him.
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Post#26 » by exkonvict » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:25 pm

prekazi wrote:Not even Kobe or Duncan can lead this team to back to back 50 wins and Leastern Championship because team is coached(?) by Mike Brown not Phil Jackson or Gregg Popovich.


a team with FOUR All-Stars can't get 50 wins? are you nuts?
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Post#27 » by HouMac » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:26 pm

exkonvict wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



a team with FOUR All-Stars can't get 50 wins? are you nuts?


I think that's a question you should be directing at yourself.
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Post#28 » by Andrew Bynasty » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:28 pm

HouMac wrote:If by 'anything' you mean a championship, then you're right(for now). Because Cleveland's won plenty with LeBron carrying them. This season w/ LeBron they're also winning at a better rate than they ever have since drafting him.


And they got swept by the first Western team they faced. If your content with that, than so be it.
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Post#29 » by prekazi » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:29 pm

exkonvict wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



a team with FOUR All-Stars can't get 50 wins? are you nuts?


:D :D :D Yeah I guess I'm being harsh on them.
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Post#30 » by Andrew Bynasty » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:31 pm

Oh, and Kobe led a team starting Smush, Walton and Kwame to 45 wins in the West... Im pretty sure he could take LeBrons squad to over 50 wins with ease. (Especially cause he wouldnt have sat with LeBrons "injury")
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Post#31 » by exkonvict » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:36 pm

LABallaz08 wrote:Oh, and Kobe led a team starting Smush, Walton and Kwame to 45 wins in the West... Im pretty sure he could take LeBrons squad to over 50 wins with ease. (Especially cause he wouldnt have sat with LeBrons "injury")


70+ wins easily.

Kobe - 12x All-Star
B. Wallace - 4x All-Star, 4x DPOY
Illgauskas - 2x All-Star
Wally's World - 1x All-Star

This, and also a bench of Gibson, Smith, Varejao, playing in maybe the weakest Eastern Conference ever... Monster, monster, monster.
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Post#32 » by That Nicka » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:43 pm

No, LeBron is doing a fine job with that group of scrubs imo
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Post#33 » by SmoothKobra » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:12 am

exkonvict wrote:70+ wins easily.



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Post#34 » by treis » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:04 am

LABallaz08 wrote:Whether its LeBrons fault or the coaches fault, LeBron dominating the ball all game long isnt gonna win anything for the Cavs. Last nights game was a perfect example of that. In the 4th quarter, there wasnt a single possession where he didnt have the ball for 10+ seconds. (Im sure thats not true, but it sure as hell seemed like it)


Yeah, LeBron really needs to share the ball with Ben Wallace, uhh, Delonte West, hmmmmm, Varejao, no..., oh yeah Sasha! Sasha will lead them to victory.

There is no other team in the league as dependent on one player as the Cavs are with LeBron.
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Post#35 » by eyejayem » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:44 am

If anybody it would have to be Kobe or TMac just because you need a ballhandling wing. But Kobe I think chemistry would not be as good and would look like the lakers after the Shaq trade with sub50 wins and bump out the 1st rd, not this years Lakers. Tmac I think would have more of a chance because he carries a team the way Lebron does and grabs boards and asts comparable to Lebron but shoots better.
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Post#36 » by Basileus777 » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:44 am

treis wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Yeah, LeBron really needs to share the ball with Ben Wallace, uhh, Delonte West, hmmmmm, Varejao, no..., oh yeah Sasha! Sasha will lead them to victory.

There is no other team in the league as dependent on one player as the Cavs are with LeBron.


So the solution to this is to have little to no ball movement and have LeBron overdribble the ball? Regardless of how much talent you have, thats not going to help your offense.
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Post#37 » by treis » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:55 am

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So the solution to this is to have little to no ball movement and have LeBron overdribble the ball? Regardless of how much talent you have, thats not going to help your offense.


Basically yeah. LeBron going one on one is going to create more easy shots for his teammates than swinging it around the perimeter.
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Post#38 » by BrooklynBulls » Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:16 am

U-Borat wrote:Not when he creates open threes for Larry Hughes for example...
As I've said millions of times before...Lebron plays to his own strengths and to his teammate's weaknesses...


His strengths outweigh his teammates weaknesses. But nevermind...

What "strengths" go underutilized on that Cleveland team?
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Post#39 » by Joseph17 » Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:18 am

I don't think so. Even though I think Kobe is still better than Lebron, I don't think that he could have led the Cavs to a better record.
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Post#40 » by AgEnT50 » Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:48 am

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70+ wins easily.

Kobe - 12x All-Star
B. Wallace - 4x All-Star, 4x DPOY
Illgauskas - 2x All-Star
Wally's World - 1x All-Star

This, and also a bench of Gibson, Smith, Varejao, playing in maybe the weakest Eastern Conference ever... Monster, monster, monster.



:crazy: They'd be decent, but not that good

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