Luol Deng vs Lamar Odom, who is better?

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Luol Deng vs Lamar Odom, who is better?

Luol Deng
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41%
Lamar Odom
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59%
 
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Post#21 » by ponder276 » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:29 pm

Lamar is a great 3rd option on offense, and a poor 2nd option, whereas Luol is a great 2nd option, and poor 1st option. To me, that more than makes up for Luol's inferior rebounding and ball-handling. Also, Lamar is in a great situation with a great player who gets you tons of open looks (Kobe), whereas Luol is in a pretty terrible situation and has to create his own offense much more often. Finally, Luol has been playing through an achilles injury, and was clearly not the same for at least a few weeks when he came back (averaged only 12.4 ppg over his first 7 games back from injury).
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Post#22 » by CB4MiamiHeat » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:37 pm

well, Lamar as a co-1st option with Wade made it to the 2nd round .. i dont see what makes Deng a better 2nd option. I think Deng, like Odom, is a great 3rd option for a championship team.

If you put Luol with Kobe the past 2 seasons its probably the same result. Actually they would lose some rebounding, which was one of LAs strong points.
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Post#23 » by B-Scott » Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:20 pm

I'll take Lamar's 14 points 10 rebounds on 51.5% shooting

He's averaging like 12 boards a game over his last 20 games. He's a beast on the glass.
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Post#24 » by EHL » Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:38 pm

I'd take Deng without question. He can man up and play D even without help; playing next to Kobe and Gasol his FG% would skyrocket as would his ability to put lots more energy into perimeter defense.
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Post#25 » by B-Scott » Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:58 pm

With Bynum injured

C Gasol
PF Turiaf
SF Deng
SG Kobe
PG Fisher

Lakers now become one of the worse rebounding teams in the West
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Post#26 » by EHL » Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:24 pm

^ Bynum won't be injured much longer, he makes LO expendable for someone dependable that doesn't get discouraged or wimp out when guards don't give him the ball; i.e. Deng. Plus Lamar averages 7-8 rpg at small forward, while Deng averages 7. Basically no difference. Lineup becomes Fisher/Kobe/Deng/Gasol/Bynum, much better defensively and Lakers won't have to deal with this in the playoffs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQtRXQpZHHg
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Post#27 » by B-Scott » Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:36 am

You can't do it that way. Replace Lamar with Deng during this stretch with Bynum out. Ronny Turiaf is a absolutely horrible rebounder. He's softer then Chris Mihm on the boards.

Put Lamar on the Bulls beginning of the season with Ben Wallace Hinrich and Gordan and there better.

C Ben Wallace
PF Lamar Odom
SF Nocioni
SG Gordon
PG Hinrich

There weakness is rebounding in the paint and simply having a guy who can draw some mismatches and draw some double teams from the post. Ben probably never gets traded because there record would have been better. Deng is mainly looking to score and he cant play PF

Also there is no guarantee that a Gasol, Bynum frontline would work with Gasol defending quicker power forwards.
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Post#28 » by tclg » Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:32 am

The team is only better because we have a capable sf named nocioni
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Post#29 » by EHL » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:16 am

B-scott, you are arguing about replacing Deng with Odom right now, yet you include Gasol in your lineup even though he's also out with injury like Bynum is? Come on, at least get your own garbage arguments straight. You're desperate at best. Deng adds perimeter shooting and defense at the 3. Gasol has anchored several good defensive teams with the Grizzlies and for the last two months the Lakers. This is something Lamar never could do. Gasol is more than adequate, unlike LO. I know it hurts your ego, but man up.
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Post#30 » by JordansBulls » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:56 pm

B-Scott wrote:You can't do it that way. Replace Lamar with Deng during this stretch with Bynum out. Ronny Turiaf is a absolutely horrible rebounder. He's softer then Chris Mihm on the boards.

Put Lamar on the Bulls beginning of the season with Ben Wallace Hinrich and Gordan and there better.

C Ben Wallace
PF Lamar Odom
SF Nocioni
SG Gordon
PG Hinrich

There weakness is rebounding in the paint and simply having a guy who can draw some mismatches and draw some double teams from the post. Ben probably never gets traded because there record would have been better. Deng is mainly looking to score and he cant play PF

Also there is no guarantee that a Gasol, Bynum frontline would work with Gasol defending quicker power forwards.


That Bulls lineup is much better than what we had at the beginning of the year.
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Post#31 » by Gerald3Wallace » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:56 am

anyways...id still take odom just because he brings more to the table...dude has been playing extremely well the second half of the season...while deng didnt improve..
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Post#32 » by BugsBunny » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:29 am

Lamar now Deng future
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