What is the difference with Crash in the line-up?

[DaBassSource]

Not asking if we play better or worse. I think we just play different...what do you all think...is it that the floor is spaced differently with Crash in the game...which causes a chain reaction...

[W_HAMILTON]

What is the difference with Crash in the line-up?

Well, lately the difference has been we played tougher teams since he came back. Is that a coincidence? I didn't check the schedule. I was thinking our remaining schedule was full of Minnesota's, Atlanta's, and Bosh-less Toronto's, but then, BOOM! Wallace comes back and we are playing Dallas and a team with one of the longest win streaks in NBA history.

Was it scheduled that way, or did he do that?

[fatlever]

i dont think he is exactly implying wallace is the reason we are losing, or the reason we were winning when he was gone, just simply that the team plays differently when he is on the floor.

wallace is a very unique player, so it should be expected that the team would play differently with him around or not around.

defensively we are and always be a better team with wallace on the floor. offensively, it depends.

wallace has a tendency to hold onto the ball and force his offense. he is also a poor shooter, which hurts our spacing at times. this season, more than any other, wallace has been a tad selfish at times. when felton is getting into the paint and jrich and carroll are knocking down shots, wallace might hurt the flow of the offense.

likewise, he is easily our best slasher and the best at getting to the ft line. when our offense stalls, which is does often, wallace is the best at forcing the action and making something out of nothing (i.e. driving, running, getting to the line etc..).

but more than anything, wallace is simply a tad rusty. we all know that it takes wallace a while to get going. he starts the season slow and he always takes a while to get going after injuries. but once he is rolling, he is easily our best player on both ends of the floor, imo.

[DaBassSource]

i dont think he is exactly implying wallace is the reason we are losing, or the reason we were winning when he was gone, just simply that the team plays differently when he is on the floor.

wallace is a very unique player, so it should be expected that the team would play differently with him around or not around.

defensively we are and always be a better team with wallace on the floor. offensively, it depends.

wallace has a tendency to hold onto the ball and force his offense. he is also a poor shooter, which hurts our spacing at times. this season, more than any other, wallace has been a tad selfish at times. when felton is getting into the paint and jrich and carroll are knocking down shots, wallace might hurt the flow of the offense.

likewise, he is easily our best slasher and the best at getting to the ft line. when our offense stalls, which is does often, wallace is the best at forcing the action and making something out of nothing (i.e. driving, running, getting to the line etc..).

but more than anything, wallace is simply a tad rusty. we all know that it takes wallace a while to get going. he starts the season slow and he always takes a while to get going after injuries. but once he is rolling, he is easily our best player on both ends of the floor, imo.

thanks Fat...you are correct I was not saying he cause the losses...We just seem to look different as a team when he plays...And I sit there and can't really put my finger on it...before his injury I would have said he was our most valuable player hands down...but now I wonder....without J-Rich I think we would struggle...

[fatlever]

for whatever reason, the bobcats have been traditionally slow to create good chemistry. we always start slow. whenever we introduce a new player into the lineup it seems to take a long time to gel. whenever a key player missed time we usually struggle (exception being this recent streak) and whenever a key player returns we also usually stuggle.

maybe it has something to do with the collectively low bball iq of the team. or maybe its our pgs not figuring out how to adjust to personel changes or maybe its poor coaching. maybe a product of all three.

no matter how hard he tries, wallace is not a "blend in" kind of player. he plays 100mph all the time on both ends. its hard to blend in when you play like that. i'm sure it takes a while to get used to playing alongside someone who plays like that.

[Rich4114]

I'd say Fats hit the nail on the head with this one. I do find myself yelling at the TV with Wallace this season though when he's just sitting there holding the ball and then jacks up a 3pter. He needs to score in rhythm or slash to the basket. When guys start backing off of him, then go for the jumper. If he wants to get going, the best option is to keep driving it to the rim or posting up. For some reason this season we stopped posting Wallace up even though he used to drop 30-40pts when we had his post game going.

Tonight though I can definitely say the spacing is pretty bad on the offensive end. There's one section of the court that is so empty on our side you can put a dance team out there and not get in the way. Everyone clogs the paint and then there's no where to go. Spread the damn floor out a little so there's some options.

[fatlever]

i'm still leaning mostly towards coincidence, but, for what its worth, we've lost 10 in a row with crash. that being said, its still amazing that he is even playing right now.

[nugentrk]

I am not a bobcats fan so I hope you guy don’t take this as trolling.

I would like to see what Rick Carlisle can do with your team. If your team hires him, then the cats will probably win 45 to 50+ games next season.

It is probably not realistic to bench Richardson or Wallace but your team’s starting lineup needs more 3pt shooting to help spread the floor better. Your team in general needs more 3pt shooters.

I think that the cats could be a much better team if you bench either Wallace or Richardson and turn him into your 6th man. The Spurs did this last season by using Manu Ginobili as a 6th man. Wallace or Richardson will still play about 34 to 37 minutes per game as your 6th man. If you bench Wallace, he can log minutes at sf/sg/pf. If you bench Richardson, he can log minutes at sf/sg. (Richardson is your only starter that shoots a decent 3pt shoot.)

Also, Felton needs to improve his 3pt shoot or he needs to be traded for a PG that shoots better from behind the arc.

[amcoolio]

Well yeah, anybody would be better than what we currently have. I can't believe we didn't want Brown at the beginning of the job search. Or that we passed Stan Van Gundy for him.

[pballa]

question:

do you all think gforce would thrive or collapse under the Suns system?

[Walt Cronkite]

thrive; shawn marion meets grant hill

[DaBassSource]

thrive; shawn marion meets grant hill

The old Crash definitely would thrive...but this years Crash that needs to have Iso and often holds the ball to much might take a while...

[Walt Cronkite]

DO NOT WANT to turn this into a Felton flamewar, just saying I think Nash and D'Antoni would nip the Wallace Iso from the playbook pretty quickly.

[W_HAMILTON]

DO NOT WANT to turn this into a Felton flamewar, just saying I think Nash and D'Antoni would nip the Wallace Iso from the playbook pretty quickly.

You're right.

But I don't think there would be anything to "nip," since I would think if Nash was creating for Wallace, he wouldn't feel the need to take it upon himself and force things, trying to create for himself and others.

[fatlever]

shocker

[pballa]

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You're right.

But I don't think there would be anything to "nip," since I would think if Nash was creating for Wallace, he wouldn't feel the need to take it upon himself and force things, trying to create for himself and others.

agreed