How many games would an all defense team win?

T-Mac for MVP · Post #1 » by **T-Mac for MVP** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:41 am

Ex say your starting 5 is
M. Camby
K. Brown
S. Battier
B. Bowen
and um..... C. Billups?

OmniDEN · Post #2 » by **OmniDEN** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:44 am

Why is Kwame Brown on that team?

T-Mac for MVP · Post #3 » by **T-Mac for MVP** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:46 am

Kwame is a lock down post defender.

hermes · Post #4 » by **hermes** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:02 am

lock down?
i don't think he's quit that good

they'd be better than the heat

OmniDEN · Post #5 » by **OmniDEN** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:10 am

T-Mac for MVP wrote:Kwame is a lock down post defender.

Um.

No.

Jemini80 · Post #6 » by **Jemini80** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:12 am

considering this was the NBA All-defensive first team from last year

C- Camby
F- Duncan
F- Bowen
G- Bell
G- Kobe

pretty sure they would win at least 65 games. A team with 2 of the three best players in the league (I think Kobe and Duncan are the two best, but i will do this to not turn this into a LBJ spamfest), would basically guarantee 50 wins, plus the amazing role players around them. This team would easily win the NBA Finals.

even the all-defensive 2nd team from last year is a nasty team (ignoring that Ben Wallace didn't play good enough defense to be on there last year)

C- Ben Wallace
F- KG
F-Prince
G- Kirk
G- Kidd

that team would probably only get 50-55 wins though.

assuming this year's all defensive team will look like

C- Camby
F- KG
F- Bowens/Duncan/Artest/Smith
G- Kobe
G- Paul

this team would win 65 games at the least.

Patterns · Post #7 » by **Patterns** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:36 am

T-Mac for MVP wrote:Ex say your starting 5 is
M. Camby
K. Brown
S. Battier
B. Bowen
and um..... C. Billups?

35 wins.

You see how even the Spurs struggle on offense sometimes despite their godly defense even with Duncan and Ginobili and Parker.

That team would be pretty damn ugly on offense. The only capable offensive player is Billups.

AgEnT50 · Post #8 » by **AgEnT50** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:57 am

T-Mac for MVP wrote:Kwame is a lock down post defender.

Since when?

Kabookalu · Post #9 » by **Kabookalu** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:21 am

T-Mac for MVP wrote:Kwame is a lock down post defender.

True that...if you meant he's really good at locking himself down in the post.

Post #10 » by **penbeast0** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:41 pm

Jemini80 wrote:considering this was the NBA All-defensive first team from last year

C- Camby
F- Duncan
F- Bowen
G- Bell
G- Kobe

Put Kirk Hinrich in there instead of Kobe to weaken the offense and give this team a point and you still have a team that competes for the NBA title despite having no real offensive threat other than Duncan.

The_Believer · Post #11 » by **The_Believer** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:58 pm

You need to have SJax in there and take Bell out. IMO Bell's defense is grossly overrated. Also, Baron's a VERY underrated clutch/man defender, so he could be subbed in in the clutch.

a-rod · Post #12 » by **a-rod** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:31 pm

it depends on the conference....

Cammo101 · Post #13 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:48 pm

As said by others, Kwame on that is a joke. IMO the all defensive team is...

Camby
Duncan
Artest
Battier
Bowen

Basileus777 · Post #14 » by **Basileus777** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:57 pm

Cammo101 wrote:As said by others, Kwame on that is a joke. IMO the all defensive team is...

Camby
Duncan
Artest
Battier
Bowen

Well that team would be awful on offense. They have no playmakers, no one who can penetrate, no one who can throw an entry pass to Duncan, and no closer. Duncan is still a great player, but I don't think he is capable of consistently dominating on offense anymore, at least in the regular season. This team wouldn't make the playoffs in the West.

Red Robot · Post #15 » by **Red Robot** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:43 pm

An all defense, no offense team would really struggle.

Przybilla
Jason Collins
Battier
Hassell
Duhon

Post #16 » by **og15** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:56 am

I think putting Duncan there destroys the whole point of them being an All-Defense team. Common, how in the world do you make a bad team by allowing Duncan to have Camby at C, and some perimeter guys who can shoot and defend?

Post #17 » by **penbeast0** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:19 pm

Most teams have at least one star, Duncan is the ALL-PRO most commonly lauded for defense rather than offense. Doesn't seem reasonale to have a team of non-starters or marginal starters and ask how they would compete.

Maybe use the following players better known for defense than scoring from the last two years team: Bell, Bowen, Camby, Hinrich, Kidd, Prince, Wallace, Artest, and Kirilenko (8 man rotation . . . Eliminate one of the four SFs . . . Artest is the most offensive)

Camby Wallace
Kirilenko
Prince Bowen
Hinrich Bell
Kidd

Still a serious contender, top 8 teams in the league but not top 5

ITK9 · Post #18 » by **ITK9** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:23 pm

if we are talking about

snow
bell
bowen
kwame brown
camby

...no they won't win more than 20 games

if we are talking about

bilups
kobe
g wallace
duncan
ben wallace

they win it all

kandiking · Post #19 » by **kandiking** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:25 am

yesterday with 5 minutes left and the grizzlies up 8 iavaronni put in kwame. within 80 secs al jefferson had put up 7 points.