Official Game Thread: Nets @ Bulls (67)

[rag-time4]

I know Swift can hit jump shots but where he faked it seemed out of his range , Thomas made a rookie/sophomore mistake and badly payed the price .

Problem is if he's drawing some defenders he only creates space for an jump shot and we suck at shooting . We get tons of open looks but hardly hit .

Serpo on the first point Swift swished 2 from just about the same distance in that game...

and on the second point, when a player draws defenders in the paint he can create driving lanes and easy shot opportunities for teammates. Relying solely on perimeter shots around a post up player is a very "Van Gundy-ish" mindset... that's what Jeff Van Gundy tried to do with Yao Ming.

Stromile showed in his time with Houston that slashers and guys who can finish at the rim are great complements to post up players because when Yao got swarmed defenses were often not able to react and cover Swift.

This isn't the best example of what I'm talking about, as it's more of a broken play, but check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baubSMap0uY

Yao is posting up in the paint, right in the middle of the paint. Because of Yao's presence, Swift doesn't get blocked out. More than enough space for Stromile to finish the play with a vengeance. Drawing defenders in the paint doesn't mean that there won't be opportunities for other players to score in the paint. Players like Jefferson, Carter, and Harris are all quick and explosive enough to punish defenses severely for being out of position.

Ironically, that was a game the Rockets won, after they had fallen behind with Juwan in the game. Swift came in a little early in that game and they won it. (it was in sac, and i was there woo hoo!)

[Serpo]

If i remember right his shots came after this dunk and it doesn't matter anyway .

Would you rather give an inconsitent shooter rather a jumpshot or an open lane to dunk ?

It was a mistake by Thomas .

[EFF]

wow you are so adament about not giving him credit.

He faked. Tyrus bit. That's what the fake is for. Sometimes people bite, even the good ones.

[rag-time4]

If i remember right his shots came after this dunk and it doesn't matter anyway .

Would you rather give an inconsitent shooter rather a jumpshot or an open lane to dunk ?

It was a mistake by Thomas .

Thomas is an aggressive defender. He would prefer not to give anyone anything and I think that's the best way to play and really to live life.

I do agree though that it was a mistake. He should have closed the space without jumping to be in better position to recover... and only jump after Stromile jumps to shoot. But that shot was within Stromile's range... he was maybe 2 or 3 feet behind the free throw line.

Way too aggressive on defense by Thomas there but a high IQ fake by Swift knowing his opponent and also an excellent drive and finish by Swift.

[MrDollarBills]

I don't think i've seen the words "High IQ" and "Swift" in the same sentence since this kid joined the team!!!!!

[rag-time4]

I don't think i've seen the words "High IQ" and "Swift" in the same sentence since this kid joined the team!!!!!

DollarBills, you must have missed my comments in this thread, for the Bucks game though your comments did appear in the thread after mine...



Would you say that was a "low IQ" or "high IQ" fake by Stromile against Tyrus Thomas?

I'd say it was a "high IQ" fake given Thomas' extremely aggressive playing style.

[MrDollarBills]

I thought it was a great play from a guy who needs to do more of that stuff so High IQ play.

[rag-time4]

I thought it was a great play from a guy who needs to do more of that stuff so High IQ play.

For the team's sake, lets hope he does the best he can with whatever opportunity he's given!