Which Player do we Draft

UKF · Post #1 » by **UKF** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:33 am

According to a thread I made a few weeks ago, on which position we draft for, the PG position recieved 7 votes while the PF position recieved 5 votes.

So out of the guys listed, who do you think we should draft this offseason?

SactownHrtBrks8 · Post #2 » by **SactownHrtBrks8** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:05 am

I like Kevin Love if we go PF

mobiuseinz · Post #3 » by **mobiuseinz** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:38 am

Artest93 wrote:I like Kevin Love if we go PF

I don't like Kevin Love. As cool as it would be to have a twin tower approach with Hawes and Love, we just cant do it. Both are fundamentally sound, and of course Love is a great passer and rebounder, but both are not athletically ready for the NBA. Someone like Augustine who has quickness and a silky jumper would be better for us. He could keep up with guys like Ellis and Paul and bang with Deron Williams... but if we do go big again, then McGee is definitive, or even DeAndre Jordan if he slips to us.

SacKingZZZ · Post #4 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:48 am

Well those players might all be there when we pick but maybe not. It depends how many freshmen declare, and who decides to stay. This year shouldn't be like last year. That was a deep deep draft where us picking 10 didn't hurt us all that much. This year may be one of those years where it might be slim pickings by our 12th pick. Could get a solid player but possibly not one of our choosing unless we reach for a player not considered a lotto prospect.

Out of that list Kevin Love is probably the safest bet. Anthony Randolph might have the highest risk/reward factor, and Collison or Augustin might be the best hole fillers.

I honestly would like Collison or reach for a lower listed prospect.

BMiller52 · Post #5 » by **BMiller52** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:05 am

Darrel Arthur is the way to go IMO. He is a winner, he has a ton of potential, he has a ton of athleticism. He's been inconsistent, but he's shown some nice post scoring and great defense. He's a good shotblocker. He'd fill the hole we have at PF and I think he's a great fit next to Spencer.

So there you go, that's my boy and I'll probably be campaigning for us to draft him until draft day.

I also like Anthony Randolph, Jason Thompson, Ty Lawson, Darren Collison. I actually like DJ Augustin more than those guys but it's kinda doubtful he's there when we pick. If he is though he's probably the best player available.

Ballings7 · Post #6 » by **Ballings7** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:36 am

No to Kevin Love, for us. From all that I've seen and read, overall, he'd be pretty redundant next to Hawes. The compatability and balance between the two just isn't going to be there with significance. Just partially, with offense and possibly solid rebounding help.

Now, if the plan wouldn't be to pair those two for the next handful of years - then, okay. But, if so? We will then have a lack of seperation in the areas of mobility and defense, between our two starting big men. A ceiling. Both are also offensive-minded and the main reason they're going to be in the league, is because of their offensive ability. Thus, a non-balanced, non-complementing starting big man combination.

That is not my cup of tea, and really shouldn't be our cup of tea.

You need a notable defensive presence up front in the SL. That is especially relevant for this team, given the interior issues since 2003 (been scary at times). Aside from all that historical evidence, of what is required to be a contending team in this league.

Out of those players, I like Arthur, Augustin, Collison quite a bit.

Randolph is very interesting, sounds like he'd be a nice fit next to Kevin (versatile game, and most importantly defense), but I have no idea if he'll come out, and seems to be a risky pick to an extent. As a whole I'd be intrigued and feeling good, if we picked him.

Lawson I just don't have much on.

Not listed, but I also dig Javale McGee and Tyler Smith. DeAndre Jordan if he slips.

I prefer a big man that would complement Spencer well first, then a PG. If not one of those, then a SF that fits suitably with Kevin. Meaning, not a player who won't be a defender, and secondly, wouldn't have play-making ability.

Both the PG/PF likely come within the next couple drafts, anyway. Free-agency in 2009 has little to nothing for us.

Post #7 » by **Wolfay** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:57 am

To be honest, I don't really have an opinion on who we should draft, but there's something I want to throw in...

Who's to say that Spencer Hawes is one of the guys we should/want build around? Maybe if he was our number one pick, but he was drafted at number 10. I'm not saying we shouldn't consider Hawes in our future, but I also wouldn't say that he's solidly in our plans for the future.

Just whoever is the best available, is who we should draft. I personally have no idea who that is, so I'll leave that to Petrie.

a-rod · Post #8 » by **a-rod** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:26 pm

Artest93 wrote:I like Kevin Love if we go PF

Yeah me too....

SacKingZZZ wrote:Well those players might all be there when we pick but maybe not. It depends how many freshmen declare, and who decides to stay. This year shouldn't be like last year. That was a deep deep draft where us picking 10 didn't hurt us all that much. This year may be one of those years where it might be slim pickings by our 12th pick. Could get a solid player but possibly not one of our choosing unless we reach for a player not considered a lotto prospect.

Out of that list Kevin Love is probably the safest bet. Anthony Randolph might have the highest risk/reward factor,and Collison or Augustin might be the best hole fillers.

I honestly would like Collison or reach for a lower listed prospect.

Oh no thats the worst draft method. draft the best player available is always more sensible draft method, take the best player available regardless of need or position.

a-rod · Post #9 » by **a-rod** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:57 pm

mobiuseinz wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I don't like Kevin Love. As cool as it would be to have a twin tower approach with Hawes and Love, we just cant do it. Both are fundamentally sound, and of course Love is a great passer and rebounder, but both are not athletically ready for the NBA. Someone like Augustine who has quickness and a silky jumper would be better for us. He could keep up with guys like Ellis and Paul and bang with Deron Williams... but if we do go big again, then McGee is definitive, or even DeAndre Jordan if he slips to us.

I like him, but I'm still not sold on his playmaking ability, his size is also a concern because even tho hes pretty good shooter who has NBA range i don't think he can shot over bigger PGs in the NBA, let alone defend them.

Post #10 » by **KingInExile** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:54 pm

Is this really going to be different that the other draft threads we have?

Post #11 » by **KF10** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:37 pm

KingInExile wrote:Is this really going to be different that the other draft threads we have?

Eh, the choices are more specified...(6 players)

Ballings7 · Post #12 » by **Ballings7** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:26 pm

a-rod wrote:Oh no thats the worst draft method. draft the best player available is always more sensible draft method, take the best player available regardless of need or position.

Not if that player is intended or favored, to stay around for awhile, but actually doesn't mesh that well with the rest of your starting group (now/future).

So obviously in order to rid of that problem, you then trade somebody from the starting five that doesn't fit.

For example if it was Chase Budinger or Danillo Gallinari (probably)... they don't fit next to Kevin. So, either they'd be a 6th man, or he or Kevin are going to have to go eventually. Pairing one of those two together with Kevin doesn't quite work.

Another example is Kevin Love, as I went over in my previous post, under the case Hawes/Love would be paired together for an extended period of years. And if that wouldn't be the plan for the starting PF/C tandem, then obviously somebody's future is elsewhere.

That is a possible scenario involved with picking the best player available without consideration of position or need. I would think and hope that is not as likely to happen, though. Rather, the pick being somebody who complements the team and/or brings a new dimension to the team. The ultimate factor being compatability is present with that player.

And, I'm not doubting Spencer isn't going to be a main fixture with us for awhile. At least considered as that.

BMiller52 · Post #13 » by **BMiller52** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:43 am

a-rod wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I like him, but I'm still not sold on his playmaking ability, his size is also a concern because even tho hes pretty good shooter who has NBA range i don't think he can shot over bigger PGs in the NBA, let alone defend them.

Augustin's probably the best passing PG in college basketball...

Whoever voted for Kevin Love is on crack. The guy isn't going to be that good in the NBA and he doesn't compliment Spencer or Kevin at all. That's just a terrible choice.

UKF · Post #14 » by **UKF** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:37 am

I agree with BMiller.

We already have Brad and Spencer...do we need another unathletic big???

If we do go with a big, I would much rather have Arthur.

Dustin5566 · Post #15 » by **Dustin5566** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:58 am

I really want to get DeAndre Jordan..

Him at Center and Spencer at PF can be a good combo down low.

DeAndre is super athletic and can provide the athletisicm we need in the post. Highly doubt he slips to us though.

SacKingZZZ · Post #16 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:32 am

I really haven't been all that impressed with Jordan when I have watched A&M. Has the physical tools but does he know how to use them on a consistent basis is the question for me.

I watched the Cal/New Mexico game and was really impressed with JR Giddens. I havn't seen him play in a few years but he has really improved his ball handling/creating skills. He's like a 6'6" PF out there, rebounding, blocking shots, and just being a menace.

UKF · Post #17 » by **UKF** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:04 am

Kevin Love....

I just dont get it.

BMiller52 · Post #18 » by **BMiller52** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:04 am

Ultimate Kings Fan wrote:Kevin Love....

I just dont get it.

Me neither man. It makes no sense to me. From what I understand we got a bigger and more athletic Love clone last year who is lest polished and not quite the rebounder. But to be honest I'm guessing Love has a harder time grabbing rebounds in the NBA than Hawes does considering he's less athletic and shorter.

I want Augustin but if he's not there I'd take Arthur, Anthony Randolph, Jason Thompson, Ty Lawson, or Collison. My opinion about Collison has changed some. I kinda want a good PG more than PF. I think having a good PG who can make all the passes(like the alley oop pass, laser pass finding a guy cutting to the basket-remember Doug would do that for Peja and Mike a lot) would make Kevin's job a lot easier. Beno misses him on alley oop passes like 2-3 times per game. Also want a PG with speed that can cut well so we can use that high post game with Spencer.

I'm thinking we might want to take a PF in the 2nd round. I don't think Darnell Jackson would necessarily be starting material but he reminds me of a guy like Brandon Bass. I like DJ White and Taj Gibson a lot also. I'm hoping we take a gamble on 1 of those guys considering we have 2 2nd round picks.

Ballings7 · Post #19 » by **Ballings7** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:20 am

UKF wrote:Kevin Love....

I just dont get it.

I don't either - at all (for us).

Generally, I think he'll be a talented player and a top support starter. But, he won't have the agility and presence, defensively, where he can make an impact.

SKZZZ wrote:I really haven't been all that impressed with Jordan when I have watched A&M. Has the physical tools but does he know how to use them on a consistent basis is the question for me.

I'd gladly take take a chance and commit with him. Solid work ethic and coaching are the keys. I don't see why that can't be there with him, combined with his attributes and ability.

_SRV_ · Post #20 » by **_SRV_** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:58 am

What exactly don't you get?
Petrie drafted Corliss, Peja, Hedo, Wallace and the french dude at SF, and Garcia, Martin Douby at SG, he used Hedo to get himself center to replace Vlade, he can use Kevin to get himself another piece, I wouldn't put it past Petrie to exploit the Chicago situation and Trade Martin for Gordon and one of their big men, adding good talent is much better than gambling on the athletic bums you keep throwing their names, what did Simmons, Armstrong, O'Bryant, CharlieV, SSwift or any big man with "athleticism" and "agility" done? What player would you rather have Nick Collison or Stromile Swift? No, I'd rather draft based on basketball ability and not blindly gamble on a repeatedly losing horse.