Bobby hates Larry

Sigra · Post #1 » by **Sigra** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:01 am

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=730304

"To be honest, we have all the pieces to the puzzle. Everyone is not playing to the best of their ability. They're not put in position in the schemes (Krystkowiak) has." Simmons said.

"A lot of guys can do more than jack up jump shots. That's the way the offense is structured."

We all know that Bobby hates Larry. Bobby's friend here make it sure that we all know that. But this time he said that in public.

No doubt that Bobby Simmons is main chemistry troublemaker this year.

Is he right when he atacks Krystko and his offense? Sure he is. Larry has no clue how to coach NBA team. But Bobby has been terrible and should not have right to atack anybody.

All of this is logical result when you have team without leader. Then all kind of garbage try to lead and then you have mess.

Nowak008 · Post #2 » by **Nowak008** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:49 am

Even though Bobby has been less then stellar, he is 100% right. After LK didn't give Bobby any time against the Heat, Bobby probably went over the edge.

Captain Erv · Post #3 » by **Captain Erv** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:56 am

Nowak008 wrote:Even though Bobby has been less then stellar, he is 100% right. After LK didn't give Bobby any time against the Heat, Bobby probably went over the edge.

you wouldn't have thought it after sitting on the bench cracking jokes and laughing the entire game.

LISTEN2JAZZ · Post #4 » by **LISTEN2JAZZ** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:29 am

Bobby's a loser. Blames all his failures on other people.

smalls · Post #5 » by **smalls** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:33 am

well what is he supposed to do sit on the bench and cry all game, i mean he is still getting paid quite well. He is a 100% right but does it all fall on LK, Bobby is a product of the tremendous disconnect within the org. The one that has this team with 2 sets of players. It seems the first set, the small ball chuckers, have won out again this season. Bobby fits in the second set that seems to fit the inside out style of play.
Again the disconnect cuz u had an owner who through rumors had squashed LK's triangle offense, and in effect cut off the coaches balls, becuz he won one time and thus now favors small ball and A GM who envisioned a Sacto style offense. So u end up with players not really understanding or needing to understand roles or team philosophy becauz everywhere u turn there is a different one.

Post #6 » by **paulpressey25** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:54 pm

Bobby can't hit a jump shot this year to save his life.....plain and simple.

Whether that is injury or he just doesn't work hard anymore or a combination of both, who knows.

But Bobby was never a super athletic player in relative terms. That smooth jumper was what got him the big contract. Now that's gone. So he really brings nothing to the table anymore.

Bucks_Revenge · Post #7 » by **Bucks_Revenge** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:06 pm

Bobby sucks though Darvin Ham was more effective then Simmons is this year..if this simmons was on the 2001 team he would be on the IR.

Neapolitan Buck · Post #8 » by **Neapolitan Buck** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:10 pm

Larry showed us that he can't be a good coach in this league, so I believe we should let him go. At the same time, Bobby has been the troublemaker during this season and I believe that he could do the same in the years to come...So I think we should trade him immediately; I liked him when we took him but he is not worth his huge contract and he is a troublemaker.

msiris · Post #9 » by **msiris** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:43 pm

Bobby got his money , so he really does not give a dam anymore.

LUKE23 · Post #10 » by **LUKE23** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:45 pm

Simmons is a joke. You can tell by looking at his face during games he doesn't care one bit about winning. He got paid and that's all he cares about.

I would trade him for ANYTHING this offseason.

unklchuk · Post #11 » by **unklchuk** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:13 pm

Somebody has to buck the dominant line. I think Simmons has more game than he's shown here. On an integrated team with on-court leadership, I think he'd be a contributor - doing more than he's doing now.

On todays' team, where the only thing that matters is one-on-one skills (chucking) Simmon's game is minimized, since apparently he's lost his jumper.

The injuties may have given him a much reduced ceiling, but I don't for sure know that. If we get a strong GM who remakes the team, there may be a spot for Simmons. If it's business as usual and the team character stays as selfish as it is now, then there's little hope for Simmons and little hope for us.

jerrod · Post #12 » by **jerrod** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:16 pm

i do too

can i get a t shirt somewhere?

REDDzone · Post #13 » by **REDDzone** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:33 pm

Bobby sucks, but he is 100% right.

How someone can take a top 5 offense in the league, and turn it into bottom 10 is beyond me. Sure Krystko isn't the only variable in this case, but come on, this team was putting up points with Ersan and Reiner starting.

smokinherb · Post #14 » by **smokinherb** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:02 pm

The bucks have lost over 15 games where they were leading in the 4th quarter. I would blame larry K. before bobby simmons. Granted, simmons isn't the most talented player on the team, but I trust he's been around the game long enough that he can make an observation. and you can't ignore the fact that he's right just because he isn't talented.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #15 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:45 pm

I get the feeling that Bobby is one of the smarter and higher IQ guys, specifically basketball wise that we have on this roster.

He once again is not happy with his role in the offense and he shouldn't be.

Bobby got his MIP award by being able to score in a variety of ways.

Bobby never gets to see the ball in the post up, like Mason did plenty this year.

Now LK is punishing Bobby and not letting him play much like LK punished CV at the beginning of the year.

I'd LOVE if BuckSkins would chime in here.

Unless we get a great deal for him, I'd kind of like to see what Bobby Simmons could bring us next year under a different coach. If it still doesn't work, move him by the deadline. He'll probably have more value if we can find him a role in the offense much like we have done for CV and effectively boosted his trade value.

BuckSkins Fan · Post #16 » by **BuckSkins Fan** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:06 pm

ESBF, I am here and reading all this BS. Its amazingly funny how many Bobby experts we have here at RealGM. All because a player tells the truth, that the so called leaders of this team are afraid to do so, he is now the cancer in the locker room. Wow.

The whole season can be summed up in a paragraph for Bobby. LK talked an enourmous amount of crap about tough defense, not playing if you dont play D, and not playing if you dont play team ball among numerous other boastful statements that were never backed up. To make along, drawn out story short, Bobby called LK out for all his tough talk and not backing it up. All the players, even your so called leaders in Bogut and Redd had been complaining about LK. So Bobby stepped up and tried to do something. He first went to LK, he then went to asskohl, then to LH. Each time he laid out the players concerns. Some players even wrote things down for Bobby to bring up to asskohl because they would not do it themselves.

LK responded by naming Bobby as a traitor for going over the coaches head and wanting out, and reduced his playing time to nothing.

Call Bobby a cancer if you want, but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Out of every player on this team, Bobby was the only one to step up and try to do something to fix this horrible situation.

In closing, this should make everyone here really happy. Bobby will not be back with the Bucks next year and neither will LK. The new coach will be up to the new GM.

Flame on.

showtimesam · Post #17 » by **showtimesam** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:12 pm

BuckSkins Fan wrote:
In closing, this should make everyone here really happy. Bobby will not be back with the Bucks next year and neither will LK. The new coach will be up to the new GM.

Flame on.

I'd love if bobby could be traded, but Idk what team wants to trade for that contract. The bucks would have to find an even crappier player to swap him for.

I still think bobby can be a decent player, but I hope if the bucks aren't able to find a taker for his services that he'll work his ass off for this team and play well since he's making so much money (most of which hasn't been earned)

So basically Bobby's so fed up that he'll refuse to play for milwaukee even if LK is out of town?

WRau1 · Post #18 » by **WRau1** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:12 pm

That sucks that Simmons won't be back next season. I mean, who wouldn't want a fat, non athletic 3 that can't hit a jumper to save his life, clogging up 9mil/season? I am depressed. Well, I'm off to punch some hookers.

raferfenix · Post #19 » by **raferfenix** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:23 pm

I entirely believe that Bobby has had the team's interests at heart by starting the war with LK, and let's not forget that him doing that has set off a chain of events that have exposed just how incompetent LK is.

However, I understand taht he has been hampered by injuries and family troubles, but I just don't get how his jumper can completely disappear aside from him not caring and not putting in the work. Sure, his defense could be hampered by his injuries (though this late in the game I doubt that's the case), but I don't think there's much chance at all his jumper was affected by injury.

Any defense for this Buckskins? Certainly Bobby isn't alone on quitting on this team and he definitley has reasons to do so, but the degree to which he has stopped trying has been a big deal, if only for how it completely tanks his trade value and puts us milwauke fans in a position where we hope to be able to get anything for him at this point.

Our franchise might be one of the worst in the league, but how does it not speak to Bobby's character that he has been willing to screw over the fans like this----the fans paying him $9 million a year through ticket sales?

EastSideBucksFan · Post #20 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:39 pm

BuckSkins Fan wrote:ESBF, I am here and reading all this BS. Its amazingly funny how many Bobby experts we have here at RealGM. All because a player tells the truth, that the so called leaders of this team are afraid to do so, he is now the cancer in the locker room. Wow.

The whole season can be summed up in a paragraph for Bobby. LK talked an enourmous amount of crap about tough defense, not playing if you dont play D, and not playing if you dont play team ball among numerous other boastful statements that were never backed up. To make along, drawn out story short, Bobby called LK out for all his tough talk and not backing it up. All the players, even your so called leaders in Bogut and Redd had been complaining about LK. So Bobby stepped up and tried to do something. He first went to LK, he then went to asskohl, then to LH. Each time he laid out the players concerns. Some players even wrote things down for Bobby to bring up to asskohl because they would not do it themselves.

LK responded by naming Bobby as a traitor for going over the coaches head and wanting out, and reduced his playing time to nothing.

Call Bobby a cancer if you want, but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Out of every player on this team, Bobby was the only one to step up and try to do something to fix this horrible situation.

In closing, this should make everyone here really happy. Bobby will not be back with the Bucks next year and neither will LK. The new coach will be up to the new GM.

Flame on.

I'm sorry if you get flamed for sticking your neck out. There are many Bobby haters on here.

Bobby actually cares about what is going on here and made a mature, responsible attempt to get his point across.

But because LK is a total d-bag who has not backed up his word about playing tough D, etc. he decides to single out Bobby and put him in the doghouse.

It's a damn shame. It's obvious that CV was in the same position earlier in the season and then once he's let out of his cage, boom, he's an effective player again.

Bobby had been hampered by injuries earlier in the year, but now should be pretty close to being 100%.

He's a guy who can actually contribute on the defensive end of the floor.

Complain about Bobby's jumpshot all you want, but Bobby is not just a jumpshooter. So, when you relegate him to a one dimensional player and he isn't effective at that one dimension, he becomes completely ineffective on the offensive end.

Time and time again, I've said that you have to get Bobby post ups.

He's got the body of a power forward for crying out loud. He can take any SF in this league down on the block. Yet, LK is over there calling for Mason to get those touches when he is clearly not as effective in that position on the floor.

I am sad that Bobby will not be here next year.

Why?

Because he will go to a team like the Heat or the Knicks or the Cavs and be a very effective role player and prove to be the player we thought he would be.

Unfortunately we will get very little value for him. Injuries are a big part of that, but so is LK who has killed his value. But I think there are a number of executives who recognize his talent and will make a play for him.

THANK YOU BuckSkins for coming out of the woodwork. I've been wondering about Bobby for quite sometime.

I can only hope that after (and I still hope it doesn't happen) Bobby is traded you will keep in touch here.

You are one of our favorite posters and would like to know how Bobby is doing and perhaps when/if Bobby is no longer here you can spill some more info.