Hunt: "What a mess, what a dysfunctional mess"

Post #1 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:18 pm

Better late than never it's good to see one media guy call out Kohl.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=730325

Post #2 » by **paulpressey25** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:51 pm

I think this board has done a great job the last 6-months in focusing on the real problem at hand....Kohl. And thankfully Hunt has now taken the ball and run with it.

Captain Erv · Post #3 » by **Captain Erv** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:34 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I think this board has done a great job the last 6-months in focusing on the real problem at hand....Kohl. And thankfully Hunt has now taken the ball and run with it.

yeah I applaud him for writing these columns the past three months or so, but grow some balls Mike...you would have never have written them without this board, SO ACKNOWLEDGE US!

Epicurus · Post #4 » by **Epicurus** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:14 pm

This Hunt guy picks up slowly from what I was saying over a year ago regarding a dysfunctional front office. The difference is that still this Hunt guy lacks analytic ability. His criticism is both scattered and contradictory. That probably why he is a sports writer.

unklchuk · Post #5 » by **unklchuk** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:48 pm

Sportswriters are almost more analytical and more insightful than the writing they produce. That doesn't mean they're analytical. Doesn't mean they're insightful. Just means that by the time they "ascend" to a big newspaper, they've stopped giving damn about sports. So in addition to deadlines and all the other constraints, they have no passion to guide their thoughts.

I suppose a sportswriter feels about sports like a prostitute feels about sex for money. It's a living, but you do it and forget it. Not worth more thought.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #6 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:50 pm

unklchuk wrote:Sportswriters are almost more analytical and more insightful than the writing they produce. That doesn't mean they're analytical. Doesn't mean they're insightful. Just means that by the time they "ascend" to a big newspaper, they've stopped giving damn about sports. So in addition to deadlines and all the other constraints, they have no passion to guide their thoughts.

I suppose a sportswriter feels about sports like a prostitute feels about sex for money. It's a living, but you do it and forget it. Not worth more thought.

Most sportswriters got into the field, because they love sports.

It's a far cry from whoring your body out.

Bad analogy.

Post #7 » by **paulpressey25** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:08 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:-= Most sportswriters got into the field, because they love sports.
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I somewhat disagree with you and agree with Chuck. Does Tom Enlund really love the NBA and the Bucks?

If he did, we'd have a ton greater column output and he'd actually break a story now and then.

Now you might be thinking that I'm mistakening lack of enthusiasm for what is really a lack of competency. But we've all seen incompetent but enthusiastic guys in the media. Enlund and Gardner aren't enthusiastic. It's a job to them.

unklchuk · Post #8 » by **unklchuk** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:10 pm

"Most sportswriters got into the field, because they love sports."

Got into it, yes. Maintain that love over long periods? I don't think so. Only a few.

"It's a far cry from whoring your body out."

Sportswriters for pro sports are giving the public what it wants. And if they realize how venal and ego-obsessed pro sports are, the story they tell their readers is not the whole story. The public wants to believe, for all the reasons that make sport so attractive to the spirit. So sportswriters let the readers keep their illusions. Some out of "kindness," and some out of hooker-like cynicism.

Bad analogy for you. Fine. As hyperbole that points in a worthwhile direction, it works well enough for me.

Time to move on...

europa · Post #9 » by **europa** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:18 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I somewhat disagree with you and agree with Chuck. Does Tom Enlund really love the NBA and the Bucks?

Some people give a half-ass performance no matter what their job may be. You're going to find that with any profession, sports writers included. The best sports writers are the ones who clearly love the sport they cover - even if they have issues with the game at times or the people involved in it. But their true passion for the sport and for bringing the games they cover to light in unique and fascinating ways never wanes. That's what makes the best sports writers the best. When I read McGinn's Packers coverage, for example, I still see the same intensity in his writing that I saw when he was working for the Green Bay Press Gazette many years ago. That's why he's one of the NFL beat writers in the country.

aboveAverage · Post #10 » by **aboveAverage** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:23 pm

And that's why Gery Woelful is the best bucks writer in Wisconsin. Because he truly loves the team and he is a fan. And because he reads this forum on a daily basis. Hi Gery!

EastSideBucksFan · Post #11 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:25 pm

aboveAverage wrote:And that's why Gery Woelful is the best bucks writer in Wisconsin. Because he truly loves the team and he is a fan. And because he reads this forum on a daily basis. Hi Gery!

I have lost almost all respect for him.

He doesn't take a stand on anything.

His piece on Harris being fired could've been written by: Joe Sportwriter in Anytown, USA.

It was so blase and we get no feel on if he likes the move or dislikes the move.

Take a stand Gery!

jerrod · Post #12 » by **jerrod** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:25 pm

we put the funk in dysfunction

Max Green · Post #13 » by **Max Green** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:31 am

LOL @ Hunt. He's a couple of months late like usual. I haven't read a Bucks article in the JS since I started posting here. I come here to get legitmate news and rumors on the Bucks.