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Post#1 » by heathmalc » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:31 pm

NBADRAFT.NET http://nbadraft.net/ is predicting that we will take:

Roy Hibbert with our 1st round pick.

Here is what they say:
NBA Comparison: Joel Przybilla
Strengths: Center with great size and strength ... Has soft hands, excellent touch on his shot ... Strong rebounder ... Very good free throw shooter, (around 80%) which is especially important for a center ... Post moves are developing well ... Smart player, has a good understanding of his role and what to do on the court ... Strong character guy ... Hard worker, has shown great improvement in his skill level, body and conditioning in his time at Georgetown ... Has transformed himself into a legitimate prospect ... More athletic than he appears ... His quickness in decision making has improved ... Body strength and agility seems to still be developing, his upside is very intriguing considering how much he improved in the past year ... Good vision and passing ability ... Calm demeanor, never gets out of control or loses his cool ... Has the size to block shots inside without jumping ...

Weaknesses: Limited athletically: Lacks quickness, speed in the open floor, and explosiveness ... Has trouble against big and athletic centers, must work on ball fakes and becoming less predictable offensively ... Runs very stiff, slow transitioning from half to full court ... Has decent shot blocking skills due to his size, but lacks great quickness and reflexes vertically ...
Aran Smith - 3/2/2006


They say that we'll take Goran Dragic 6-4 180 PG Slovenia with our 2nd round pick.


I like both of these picks. Dragic is a star!!!! How he will manage to drop that far to us I have no idea, but I will say this: The kid is a demon running the court, and makes plays that will make you do triple-takes! The same site lists his defense as a weakness...but I have watched about 30 of his games, and although he isn't a "stopper," I definitely wouldn't say that his defense is a weakness! He needs some coaching...but with his intelligence (A++ basketball IQ), he will learn VERY fast! IF we manage to acquire this kid in the second round, I will flat-out jump for joy. There is not a single pg in the NCAA right now that is nearly as gifted as this kid! There are some that are more athletic, stronger, and more aggressive, but none that is better. He will go down as the best player ever drafted in the second round if he does indeed drop that far! Check out his YouTube highlights for a VERY,VERY,VERY small sample of what he can do.... also, keep this in-mind: He had a broken nose, a sprained ankle and a jammed right thumb during the game they take most of the highlights from.

As for Roy Hibbert: I have been hoping since last year that Roy would fall to Cleveland. He is the perfect player to take Zydrunas's place. He is the same size (Ilgauskas is 7'2 although he is listed as taller), and Roy is a lot stronger...BUT he shoots as well a Zydrunas does (80% FT) and doesn't get pushed off his spot very often. NBADRAFT.NET mentions that Roy has problems against bigger,athletic big men. That is pretty-much true, but he is competitive and with coaching, I believe that will change. Many people like Javale Mcgee from Nevada (predicted to go #15 to PHO), and although I like him too, I think that Hibbert is the better choise right now, as he can come in and help IMMEDIATELY! Roy is the best center in the nation...and I watch a TON of college ball. Brook Lopez is considered the best... but Brook is not going to be a great center in the NBA. He may be a good PF...but not a center (just my opinion...we'll see if I am right)

Anyways.... goto the NBA.NET link (top of page) and then click on either of these guys' name. They have a youtube link for highlights.

If we get both of these players, we will be absolutely STEALING them!!!

In a perfect world, we'd get both of them, and be able to buy another pick to get Javale...because I really like his potential, and he'd be an AWESOME side-kick for both Roy and LeBron!

Can you imagine a line-up that looked like this:

C: Roy Hibbert/Zydrunas Ilgauskas*
PF: Ben Wallace/Javale Mcgee/Dwayne Jones (assuming Varejao is traded)
SF: LeBron James/Devin Brown (or FA)
SG: Sasha Pavlovic/Daniel Gibson**
PG: Goran Dragic**/ Delonte West**

* This line-up is in the future...maybe 2010. For next season, "Z" would start.

** The role of PG could be started by any of these three. However, Goran is the most talented and I'm assuming that he would win the job. Delonte and Gibson could be the main back-up for either the SG or PG spots. And if their was an injury ANYWHERE, look how flexible we'd be!

This is a pipe-dream, I know...as there is no way in hell we get all three of those players...but if we could.....WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#2 » by Benedict_Boozer » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:57 pm

Hmm I'm not a huge Roy Hibbert fan, he has talent but I could see him easily becoming a stiff in the NBA. I like the idea of drafting a big man with our 1st rounder though.

As for the Int'l PG I'm all for that as well - maybe we can get a steal. I like the Delonte/Boobie duo but you can never have enough talented guards.
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Post#3 » by heathmalc » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:17 pm

Benedict_Boozer wrote:Hmm I'm not a huge Roy Hibbert fan, he has talent but I could see him easily becoming a stiff in the NBA. I like the idea of drafting a big man with our 1st rounder though.

As for the Int'l PG I'm all for that as well - maybe we can get a steal. I like the Delonte/Boobie duo but you can never have enough talented guards.


I can understand your feelings about Hibbert. But a lot of the way he is perceived has to do with his low-key demeanor. If you really question his ability, look back to last year's tournament. Remember when he went against Greg Oden? Who won that match? And Greg went #1 last year.... If Roy had come out early, he'd have went in the top 5-10. I knew his stock would fall....but that is a great thing. People underestimate what he does...much like they underestimated Zydrunas (who coincidently came to us in a similar spot in the draft). Roy is better than Ilgauskas. He isn't as polished (obviously), but he is a better center. Cavs fans will be EXTREMELY happy with Roy if we get him.

As for Goran Dragic... That kid is so awesome. The ONLY pg I'd consider in his class is Love (Memphis)... BVut Love, although he is stronger and an inch taller, and more athletically gifted, will not be as good of a PG as Goran Dragic! Goran has the potential to be a HOFer! He is really that good! He has this one shot that I have never seen ANY pro player try: He is down in the post (yes, he's 180LBS in the post), and he fakes with his left, goes to his right and fakes a step, then throws the ball in the hoop...FROM BEHIND HIS BACK! I have seen him do this move 3 times during a game...and it amazes me every time. I know he wont be allowed to even attempt that shot in the NBA...but the fact that he can even make that shot is crazy. His only flaw...if he has one, is that he isn't very consistent from 3pt-land - but since he rarely shoots them, I don't see it as a flaw. I could keep going about how good he is...but the best thing to do is to goto ESPN360 and watch one of his games! You'll be scratching your head...guaranteed.
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Post#4 » by Hydroponic3385 » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:20 pm

Wait, we have a 2nd round pick? Is that from the trade?

*edit* And as far as the 1st round pick goes, I'd definitely be happy with Hibbert. I also wouldn't mind DJ White or Tyler Smith (both listed after Hibbert in their mock draft).
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Post#5 » by #9 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:53 am

heathmalc wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I can understand your feelings about Hibbert. But a lot of the way he is perceived has to do with his low-key demeanor. If you really question his ability, look back to last year's tournament. Remember when he went against Greg Oden? Who won that match? And Greg went #1 last year.... If Roy had come out early, he'd have went in the top 5-10. I knew his stock would fall....but that is a great thing. People underestimate what he does...much like they underestimated Zydrunas (who coincidently came to us in a similar spot in the draft). Roy is better than Ilgauskas. He isn't as polished (obviously), but he is a better center. Cavs fans will be EXTREMELY happy with Roy if we get him.

As for Goran Dragic... That kid is so awesome. The ONLY pg I'd consider in his class is Love (Memphis)... BVut Love, although he is stronger and an inch taller, and more athletically gifted, will not be as good of a PG as Goran Dragic! Goran has the potential to be a HOFer! He is really that good! He has this one shot that I have never seen ANY pro player try: He is down in the post (yes, he's 180LBS in the post), and he fakes with his left, goes to his right and fakes a step, then throws the ball in the hoop...FROM BEHIND HIS BACK! I have seen him do this move 3 times during a game...and it amazes me every time. I know he wont be allowed to even attempt that shot in the NBA...but the fact that he can even make that shot is crazy. His only flaw...if he has one, is that he isn't very consistent from 3pt-land - but since he rarely shoots them, I don't see it as a flaw. I could keep going about how good he is...but the best thing to do is to goto ESPN360 and watch one of his games! You'll be scratching your head...guaranteed.


Post the vid, of the goran dragic move plz
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Post#6 » by LeQuitterNotMVP » Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:09 am

We don't have a 2nd round pick this year IIRC.

And no way will Hibbert fall to #19. If he does, we would HAVE to take him, though.
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Post#7 » by B Mac » Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:31 am

As I said on the other thread the good thing about this draft for us is that there are quite a few decent mid teen to early 20's bigs in this draft. While we may not get Hibbert there will be several others to choose from.

Also as for the Dragic guy... while your excitement on him is contagious, Im not sure it matters since we dont have a second rounder anyway. One question though, if this guy is as good as you are making him sound why would he fall so late into the secound round?
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Post#8 » by L&H_05 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:57 am

Heath is all about the roster change.. Deadlines, drafts, free agency seems to be his passion.

To speculate or not to speculate--(the question indeed)
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Post#9 » by FlightNo.23 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:03 am

How was the ban Heath?
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Post#10 » by heathmalc » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:16 am

B Mac wrote:
Also as for the Dragic guy... while your excitement on him is contagious, Im not sure it matters since we dont have a second rounder anyway. One question though, if this guy is as good as you are making him sound why would he fall so late into the secound round?


My question EXACTLY!!!!!

I highly doubt that he will go that late...if he does....WOW!
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Post#11 » by heathmalc » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:18 am

FlightNo.23 wrote:How was the ban Heath?


Interesting, and at times frustrating. Apparently I was not supposed to post my "LeBron's the best" thread on all the other boards. :wavefinger:


However, it was fun anyway, and reading the ire of fans from other clubs made it all worth it. :rofl:
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Post#12 » by B Mac » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:30 am

I saw you only got about a 1/3 of the way through the list. I admit I actually enjoyed going to each board and reading the ensuing aftermath.
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Post#13 » by Canomad » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:53 am

there is no way we should pass up on tyler smith if he is still available. imo hes a perfect fit next to lebron and with a little seasoning will be far better the pavs. and next years draft we better pick tyler hansbrough. know alot of people dont think he will translate but i do. hansbrough will be good in the nba you heard it hear first.
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Post#14 » by FlightNo.23 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:16 pm

B Mac wrote:I saw you only got about a 1/3 of the way through the list. I admit I actually enjoyed going to each board and reading the ensuing aftermath.


Hahaha yep that was great :)

Anyway welcome back! And...yeah we don't have a second round draft pick though I can't imagine it being to hard to acquire one. Also www.DraftExpress.com is a little bit more with the program.
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Post#15 » by Smooth32 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:53 pm

Going to NBADraft.net for draft related stuff is like going to a strip club to find a wife... You might find some things you like but they lack substance and any credibility...

And saying some 2nd round pick from Europe has HOF potential, is insane...
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Post#16 » by heathmalc » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:07 pm

Smooth32 wrote:Going to NBADraft.net for draft related stuff is like going to a strip club to find a wife... You might find some things you like but they lack substance and any credibility...

And saying some 2nd round pick from Europe has HOF potential, is insane...


So.... are you saying that Vlade, Manu, Parker,etc,etc,etc have no shot at the HOF?

Just because they go in the 2nd round doesn't mean they don't have HOF potential. And it's most-definitely not insane. Perhaps you should watch the kid play...then when you do, come back and tell me that you don't think he has that potential!
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Post#17 » by LeQuitterNotMVP » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:29 pm

heathmalc wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



So.... are you saying that Vlade, Manu, Parker,etc,etc,etc have no shot at the HOF?

Just because they go in the 2nd round doesn't mean they don't have HOF potential. And it's most-definitely not insane. Perhaps you should watch the kid play...then when you do, come back and tell me that you don't think he has that potential!
It's ridiculous to say someone has HOF potential before they even step on an NBA court.
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Post#18 » by Smooth32 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:10 pm

heath, I guarantee that the kid does not go to the HOF... I am positive... Too often people get caught up on some player and have the biggest bias towards him, in your case this kid...

I didn't say anything about 2nd round picks, but rather the kid your talking about...
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Post#19 » by CzBoobie » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:28 pm

heathmalc wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



So.... are you saying that Vlade, Manu, Parker,etc,etc,etc have no shot at the HOF?



First of all, what kind of HOF are you talking about? The american one? Are you aware there are only 5 european players in there?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Belov
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krešimir_Ćosić
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dražen_Dalipagić
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dino_Meneghin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dražen_Petrović

This is a long shot for anyone, though I admit Divac and Ginobili has at least some kind of chance because they accomplished a lot on the international basketball scene, that's why they have shot at it, not because of some mysterious potential thing.

This Dragic guy has accomplished absolutely NOTHING.

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