Thursday Game Thread 3/20/08

Post #281 » by **dockingsched** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:48 am

derek fisher is recognized as one of the classiest players in the entire league, voted the president of the players association on 07. for utah fans to simply imply that fisher had ulterior motives is classless in itself. this is a freaking game for crying out loud. i'm sorry but considering that derek fisher spent most of his adult life in los angeles, a city that had all the facilities needed to take care of his daughter, i don't see how anyone can even complain about fisher going to the lakers. are the lakers a utah rival? yeah but who cares, im sure fisher doesn't when he's at home watching his daughter get better.

raphleek · Post #282 » by **raphleek** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:48 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:You would be stupid to say all Jazz fans are classless, but the ones who booed Derek Fisher, were pretty classless that night.

I'd be a bit angry I guess, but that was a bit much.

Remember that these are fans.
What Kobe did at the end is not better. He is a player. Why taunt?
His game was good enough.

YiYaoYue · Post #283 » by **YiYaoYue** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:50 am

raphleek wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Remember that these are fans.
What Kobe did at the end is not better. He is a player. Why taunt?
His game was good enough.

why provoke him? same argument... how about not booing players... and how about players not provoking fans... this is like freaking elementary "you started it first"

and the post above disproved all your remarks about fisher trying to run some conspiracy to go to lakers... it isn't like he decided to jump ship with gasol being traded... this was back when lakers were even considered possibly becoming a lottery team... he gives up money, you can tell he didnt want to leave utah but loves his daughter more, and he went to a team that at the time was in trouble with kobe asking to be traded.

Ballings7 · Post #284 » by **Ballings7** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:50 am

God, what great stuff said there by Charles

Interesting and hilarious - especially that last part about the Suns winning in returning to Philly.

What a person

raphleek · Post #285 » by **raphleek** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:51 am

dcash4 wrote:derek fisher is recognized as one of the classiest players in the entire league, voted the president of the players association on 07. for utah fans to simply imply that fisher had ulterior motives is classless in itself. this is a freaking game.

Pls read previous post by YiYaoYue and you will find on eof the reasons (stated by a LA fan) why Fish did what he did.

JDawg · Post #286 » by **JDawg** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:51 am

YOU want to know the real reason that these Jazz fans are idiots???

They dont even realize that Fisher had 22mil left on his contract for the remaining years.

The dude signed in LA for 14 mil.

He left 8 mil on the table.

What player does that? Just walks away for 8 mil. Aint like the dude hated his team OR his teammates.

So, Jazz fans, frankly, have no idea WHAT they are talking about.

Dude took less money to get his daughter care.

And we all know money is the most important factor to any player, especially one who's daughter will have high medical costs!

incontrol__ · Post #287 » by **incontrol__** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:52 am

lj4mvp wrote:It's all there - his daughter's medical needs, the fact he would sign with a another team in a city where his daughter could get the treatment his daughter needed. He lost $8 million in guaranteed salary to help save his daughter's life (gave up a contract for $22 million, signed for $14 million) and he gets booed for it? Just unbelievable he got booed, more unbelievable that people want to support the booing.

Also, neither NY team wanted him. New York had Marbury and just in general a glut of guards. New Jersey had Kidd and Marcus Williams.

raphleek · Post #288 » by **raphleek** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:52 am

YiYaoYue wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

why provoke him? same argument... how about not booing players... and how about players not provoking fans... this is like freaking elementary "you started it first"

That is my point. Why everyone is so worked up about booing. Especially that
fans have a reason ?

JDawg · Post #289 » by **JDawg** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:54 am

YOU want to know the real reason that these Jazz fans are idiots???

They dont even realize that Fisher had 22mil left on his contract for the remaining years.

The dude signed in LA for 14 mil.

He left 8 mil on the table.

What player does that? Just walks away for 8 mil. Aint like the dude hated his team OR his teammates.

So, Jazz fans, frankly, have no idea WHAT they are talking about.

Dude took less money to get his daughter care.

And we all know money is the most important factor to any player, especially one who's daughter will have high medical costs!

raphleek · Post #290 » by **raphleek** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:54 am

JDawg wrote:YOU want to know the real reason that these Jazz fans are idiots???

They dont even realize that Fisher had 22mil left on his contract for the remaining years.

The dude signed in LA for 14 mil.

He left 8 mil on the table.

What player does that? Just walks away for 8 mil. Aint like the dude hated his team OR his teammates.

So, Jazz fans, frankly, have no idea WHAT they are talking about.

Dude took less money to get his daughter care.

And we all know money is the most important factor to any player, especially one who's daughter will have high medical costs!

Are you trying to say that he will not stay with LA organization after he will retire?

And pls, skip the insults. You should do better that that. Right?

YiYaoYue · Post #291 » by **YiYaoYue** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:55 am

raphleek wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

That is my point. Why everyone is so worked up about booing. Especially that
fans have a reason ?

why boo in the first place? your reasons aren't valid... that fisher's signing was a conspiracy and looking at the least in a person than looking positively... that is my point... don't start s***

Post #292 » by **dockingsched** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:55 am

jazz fans have a problem that fisher went to the lakers as if a freaking game is as important as his daughter. fisher went back to the city where he established himself as an adult and his family for nearly a decade. he has frienships and a support network in LA. he's supposed to go to a brand new city and brand new organization cause of a stupid rivalry? get real.

andykeikei · Post #293 » by **andykeikei** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:56 am

raphleek wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

That is my point. Why everyone is so worked up about booing. Especially that
fans have a reason ?

And I don't see the bad about taunting. Everyone can get emotional right?
But I do think those fans who throw stuff are idiots.

JDawg · Post #294 » by **JDawg** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:56 am

Fine...Im not insulting jazz fans on the board because most are knowledgeable about contracts.

But its true.

Forget about it.

Its 8 mil for a role player like Fisher. aint like the guy is Kobe making hundreds of millions of dollars in his career.

that 8 mil is probably about 20% of his CAREER earnings that he left on the table man!

andykeikei · Post #295 » by **andykeikei** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:57 am

raphleek wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Are you trying to say that he will not stay with LA organization after he will retire?

And pls, skip the insults. You should do better that that. Right?

Word. Anyone who values basketball more than his own daughter's life is an idiot.

raphleek · Post #296 » by **raphleek** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:58 am

Trowing stuff was very bad. Some idiot did it, what can you do. He should be banned from arena.

Post #297 » by **dockingsched** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:58 am

raphleek wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

That is my point. Why everyone is so worked up about booing. Especially that
fans have a reason ?

its not just about the booing for me, its about the stupid underhanded remarks like fisher "using" his daughter to get out of his contract to off to the lakers. pure stupidity.

andykeikei · Post #298 » by **andykeikei** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:59 am

raphleek wrote:Trowing stuff was very bad. Some idiot did it, what can you do. He should be banned from arena.

Agree. Or just like what Chuck said players deserve to have there right to go up there and punch those idiots.

Nate505 · Post #299 » by **Nate505** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:00 am

andykeikei wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Word. Anyone who values basketball more than his own daughter's life is an idiot.

I have no problems with Fish leaving. But this myth that if Fish didn't move teams that his daughter's life would be in jeopardy is just wrong.

What moving did was enable Fish to spend more time with his daughter. Hey, that's great and important but it's not like his daughter wouldn't have got the same medical care if he would have stayed in Utah and played. It's not like his family couldn't have moved to LA or his daughter couldn't have flown to wherever she needed to go to get treatment.

Ballings7 · Post #300 » by **Ballings7** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:03 am

I was fine with Kobe's approach on and in the game... aside from playing as he did, and being Fisher's team-mate, they're close friends.

I was glad to see Kobe do what he did in relation to the fans

Of course it's not all of them, but it's a significant amount of them

Anybody in Fisher's position would do exactly what he did in going to LA.