Trading a guard in the offseason

LUKE23 · Post #1 » by **LUKE23** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:54 pm

IMO, it's unlikely that both Redd and Mo are moved in the offseason, as Kohl will not want to completely revamp the roster. If you had your pick, taking the draft, age, salary, what we can get in return, team chemistry into account, who do you send packing?

Rockmaninoff · Post #2 » by **Rockmaninoff** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:14 pm

I voted for Mo Williams simply because I feel it would be easier for the team to improve, by playing a guy at the starting 1 who can make everyone better, and play solid defense at the point of attack. Might be Sessions, might be Collison, might be Koponen.

I also feel Williams would be easier to move prior to the draft, and combined with Villanueva, would net us more in return. Redd would be easier to move closer to next season's deadline. For Wally and Picks (I wish I could make the little trademark symbol).

However, I feel the concensus here is that both of them eventually need to be moved, and I agree with that.

http://www.last.fm/user/DPF55 · Post #3 » by **Buck You** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:16 pm

I think it would be a lot easier to move Mo, so I chose him.

mpg · Post #4 » by **mpg** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:17 pm

Never thought Mo played the PG position well. And just out of curiosity what happened to all of those fast break dunks we saw with TJ running the offense?

Post #5 » by **paulpressey25** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:26 pm

Damn impossible question.....

I voted Mo only because I think he impacts more guys on the team with bad defense than Redd does.

Post #6 » by **blkout** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:29 pm

I vote for Mo purely because his contract/ability means he'd get more in return than Redd. I can't see teams giving up anything of notable quality for Redd, who while being a good player has that terrible contract that most smart teams won't want to take on... I think he has more value with the Bucks as a player than as a trade piece.

Sigra · Post #7 » by **Sigra** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:40 pm

Mo

This team WAS in playoff with Redd starting and staring at SG.

Mo starting at PG = 3 terrible seasons

Simulack · Post #8 » by **Simulack** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:42 pm

To difficult to answer without having any idea what we are getting in return for either of them.

That said, I'd trade Redd if I had to only pick one. My main reasoning is that I think this team is a long from from being successful and Mo's age and contract make him more compatible with a longish rebuilding type effort.

Regardless of what our starting unit looks like, I can at least envision Mo having a role on that team as a scoring combo guard off the bench. I think you can stomach 8.5 million a year for top tier 6th man.

I can't see Redd fitting into any future plans whatsoever.

Like everyone else said, we are probably best off erasing the slate completely and trading both of them.

LISTEN2JAZZ · Post #9 » by **LISTEN2JAZZ** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:05 pm

No preference - I'd shop both and see which returns more interest.

MajorDad · Post #10 » by **MajorDad** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:08 pm

mo gotta go

Debit One · Post #11 » by **Debit One** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:25 pm

Redd. I trade Redd + CV for a replacement SG, a SF and a backup PF/C (think Childress, Salmons and Maxiell type guys), and draft a PG.

I let Mo play PG until the trade deadline, when I move him and hand the reins to the PG who we drafted.

xTitan · Post #12 » by **xTitan** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:28 pm

I would trade both if the right deal came along......from what i hear there is a very strong possibility Mo may have "jumped the shark" with just about everyone in the organization.

Bucks_Revenge · Post #13 » by **Bucks_Revenge** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:31 pm

I am surprise of the results I thought for sure Redd would get 100% of the votes...I am done with this guy....he is a cancer "on the court" for this team.

raferfenix · Post #14 » by **raferfenix** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:36 pm

It sure seems like Mo has jumped the shark, what with the fights with coaches and other players, horrendous defense, and inability to make anyone around him better.

However, I was watching USC last night, and I will say that OJ Mayo would be the kind of SG that Mo would be good next to. I think Mo would be a great compliment to a playmaker swingman in the Wade/Kobe/Mcgrady/Lebron mode, and if we draft Mayo and can only trade one of those guys, I'd much rather dump Redd.

With all that said, I hope we send both of those losers packing. Neither have any clue how to win in the NBA, yet they are pretending like they are clutch players and leaders.

midranger · Post #15 » by **midranger** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:38 pm

Both should come off the bench.

Mo makes 8.5 million.

Redd makes 16-18 million.

The math is easy.

rilamann · Post #16 » by **rilamann** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:39 pm

Its hard to pick one because I want both guys out of here at all costs.

If the Bucks are serious about winning both guys will be moved.

When the Bucks become serious about both guys WILL be moved.

If Mo didnt have the bad attitude i'd take him over Redd but only as a 6th man.

Sigra · Post #17 » by **Sigra** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:43 pm

You guys want to trade the legend? How dare you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXlycXlG ... re=related

CBUCK06 · Post #18 » by **CBUCK06** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:47 pm

Mo will net us a solid player in return and he will be easier to move than Mo.....

midranger · Post #19 » by **midranger** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:48 pm

No, he was a legend a few years ago. Now he's a legend-caliber player.

midranger · Post #20 » by **midranger** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:48 pm

CBUCK06 wrote:Mo will net us a solid player in return and he will be easier to move than Mo.....

[brain explodes]