Bobby hates Larry

[old skool]

I have not heard why CV and Simmons have been kept on the bench for various stretches this season.

It could be for a legit reason that is not obvious to us fans.

Playing time is about the only leverage that an NBA coach has with his players.

oLd sKool

[raferfenix]

ESBF---you make a good point aobut Bobby's offense being hampered because of the lac of diversity. However, I still think it's suspect that he hasn't found any way to contribute within the offense.

Of course, his lack of production is certainly a function of the lack of minutes LK has made available to him (especially since the confrontation). However, I think he should have found a way to contribute even in limited minutes, but rather it seems like he just stopped trying.

[ReddManBogieMan]

As the great Jack Nicholson said in A Few Good Man "You know what this is ... this is funny"

How can you complain about being in a offense that only shoots jumpers, when that's all you can do. IT should fit you perfectly!

The next time I see Bobby post someone up or take the ball to the rack will be the first time. I don't know what he did with the Clippers, but apparently he forgot to pack that part of his game on his way to Milwaukee.

What a cancer. He says that Krystkowiak doesn't play the guys who don't play D and play team ball, well he benched Simmons and CV and started the not as gifted offensive players in Mason and Yi. To me that is living up to his word about benching me first ball hogging poor defending losers. I have to say that Simmons is one of the worst free agent signings that I can remember.

Plus, feel free to show this type of emotion on the court from time to time Bobby, Mr. Dead pan - no emotion. What a loser. The guy had talent but after a good first year in Milw. he severely regressed in all aspects.

Bobby Simmons said:
"To be honest, we have all the pieces to the puzzle. Everyone is not playing to the best of their ability. They're not put in position in the schemes (Krystkowiak) has.

"A lot of guys can do more than jack up jump shots. That's the way the offense is structured."

What a tool. We're not put in a position to play good. Wawawawa. What a bunch of Bologna.

As they say The $hit is hitting the fan down there at the Bradley Center. How very sad.

[EastSideBucksFan]

ESBF---you make a good point aobut Bobby's offense being hampered because of the lac of diversity. However, I still think it's suspect that he hasn't found any way to contribute within the offense.

Of course, his lack of production is certainly a function of the lack of minutes LK has made available to him (especially since the confrontation). However, I think he should have found a way to contribute even in limited minutes, but rather it seems like he just stopped trying.

Think back to Charlie Bell at the beginning of the year.

Nothing was wrong with him that would affect his jumpshot.


But his mindset was garbage and he had no confidence, desire, or will to win for this franchise.


I feel like Bobby's basketball spirit, competitive fire, and confidence have been killed.

Shooting the ball is a state of mind (when you are a real basketball player) if you are not into it mentally, forget it.


And I will say, it is truly hard (look at his minutes recently) to get into any sort of rhythm if you are playing spot minutes.

It's not easy to jump in there (like when Bobby "gets" to play with 1:45 left in the quarter) and just start stroking jumpshots.


If Bobby could work his inside game, I am positive his outside game would come back. Give him the minutes and he will give the production.


I wish Herb Kohl would "meddle" and tell LK to play Bobby like he "meddled" and told LK to play CV.

I am not a Kohl supporter, just a hater of LKs inability to make smart decisions

[EastSideBucksFan]

As the great Jack Nicholson said in A Few Good Man "You know what this is ... this is funny"

How can you complain about being in a offense that only shoots jumpers, when that's all you can do. IT should fit you perfectly!

The next time I see Bobby post someone up or take the ball to the rack will be the first time. I don't know what he did with the Clippers, but apparently he forgot to pack that part of his game on his way to Milwaukee.

What a cancer. He says that Krystkowiak doesn't play the guys who don't play D and play team ball, well he benched Simmons and CV and started the not as gifted offensive players in Mason and Yi. To me that is living up to his word about benching me first ball hogging poor defending losers. I have to say that Simmons is one of the worst free agent signings that I can remember.

Plus, feel free to show this type of emotion on the court from time to time Bobby, Mr. Dead pan - no emotion. What a loser. The guy had talent but after a good first year in Milw. he severely regressed in all aspects.

Bobby Simmons said:
"To be honest, we have all the pieces to the puzzle. Everyone is not playing to the best of their ability. They're not put in position in the schemes (Krystkowiak) has.

"A lot of guys can do more than jack up jump shots. That's the way the offense is structured."

What a tool. We're not put in a position to play good. Wawawawa. What a bunch of Bologna.

As they say The $hit is hitting the fan down there at the Bradley Center. How very sad.

It's a catch 22, he only shoots jumpers cause thats all the coach wants him to do.


If LK would call up an ISO post up on the block for Bobby maybe you would see him take it to the rack. But Bobby hasn't had a play called for him since December.



Forget your point about "emotion", that means nothing.


Tim Duncan plays with ZERO emotion


He must totally suck and not care about basketball at all, right?

[ReddManBogieMan]

Don't compare Simmons to Duncan. Please. Duncan plays with a quiet confidence, bobby just looks lost and like he doesn't care.

Plus I'm sure that LK wouldn't object Bobby taking it to the rim instead of settling for a jumper. He may even get more plays "called for him" doing that.

[NeedsMoreCheese]

I get the feeling that Bobby is one of the smarter and higher IQ guys, specifically basketball wise that we have on this roster.


He once again is not happy with his role in the offense and he shouldn't be.


Bobby got his MIP award by being able to score in a variety of ways.

Bobby never gets to see the ball in the post up, like Mason did plenty this year.


Now LK is punishing Bobby and not letting him play much like LK punished CV at the beginning of the year.


I'd LOVE if BuckSkins would chime in here.


Unless we get a great deal for him, I'd kind of like to see what Bobby Simmons could bring us next year under a different coach. If it still doesn't work, move him by the deadline. He'll probably have more value if we can find him a role in the offense much like we have done for CV and effectively boosted his trade value.

The same Bobby Simmons that continually and quickly picks up stupid fouls? You can blame the injury all you want, but thats BS (damn i just realized the irony of that). Theres smart fouls and theres stupid fouls, Bobbys were stupid. Even go back to his first year here, I dont remember the exact number it was (i looked it up awhile ago) but there were at least 20 games where he picked up 2 fouls in the first five minutes of the game. He averaged 3.4 fouls per game that season, which made him one of 2 players in the top 25 of that catergory that wasnt a big man. (Arenas being the other, but he averaged 9 more minutes per game. And still only .2 more fouls per game than Bobby.)
Hes not a smart basketball player. He isnt any good at passing either. He has a career ratio of 1.8 assists to 1.3 turnovers. Im not saying he should be getting 5 apg, but smart players find ways to get their teammates the ball to score, he doesnt.

[zizek]

I also think Simmons will do better on a better team when he is at full health. His efforts to improve the team leadership were needed.

[ReddManBogieMan]

He is at full health now.
I won't say he is a leader, but at least he shows that deep down somewhere he cares about losing.

[Buck You]

Bobby Simmons is a fringe back-up on a good team that can make wide open jumpers. He just played out of his mind for a year on the Clippers and fooled the NBA.

[showtimesam]

Bobby should love this offense of shooting jumpers. His entire season that he was healthy with stotts thats all he did as well.

Bobby isn't quick or athletic enough to blow by anyone, and his post up game has never been effective here.

Just start making the jumpers at least.

[zizek]

He wasn't healthy that season with Stotts. There's a Woelfel column on that.

[smacks1]

Bobby hasn't hit anything in Milwaukee since that girl in the back of the limo.

Never deserved the contract to begin with. He was an average player on a bad team when we signed him. Someone had to score out there and he cashed in.

[mpg]

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=730304

"To be honest, we have all the pieces to the puzzle. Everyone is not playing to the best of their ability. They're not put in position in the schemes (Krystkowiak) has." Simmons said.

Maybe Bobby should hang up his jersey and coach. I personally wouldn't be able to tell the difference with him playing or not. He's like a ghost. The guy sucked with Stotts and still sucks now. The only time I saw him play well was against the Heat during the season opener two years ago when he dunked over Mourning late in the 4th.

[coolhandluke121]

What's the difference? We're stuck with Simmons so we may as well hope and believe that he can make some improvement. First year back from missing an entire season and you should expect a long, bumpy road back. Look how much TJ improved in his first year with Toronto, his second year back after a major injury.

Simmons and CV very much want to see the Bucks do well. They both even went to Yi's summer league games to try to meet him and convince him that Milwaukee was a good place to be, even though they both stood to lose some pt to Yi. Is that what a cancer who doesn't care about the team does? You think being frustrated with losing and not getting a chance to do what they can to help the team means they have to go? Just get a coach who knows how to put players in a position to do what they do well - the number one hallmark of a good NBA coach or a good manager in any field for that matter - and you might see CV and Simmons become valuable niche players on a much-improved team.

BTW Simmons is not at all fat, either. I used to think he was but that's just muscle. He is built like a pf, but he's not fat. He does lack mobility and if you watch very closely you'll see he still steps a little gingerly on that bad foot, but I expect him to be back next year and if the Bucks get a good coach I could see him becoming a part of the 7-man rotation.

[Nebula1]

I'm okay with them both being gone.

Exit: Larry Krystowiak and Bobby Simmons

Enter: Rick Carlisle and Brandon Rush and Tyler Smith


Are we a better team with that move?

[Badger-in-Exile]

Bobby Simmons is a fringe back-up on a good team that can make wide open jumpers. He just played out of his mind for a year on the Clippers and fooled the NBA.

...And fooled virtually all of this board, most of whom were on his nuts after the signing. I was pretty baffled by that, honestly...as a part-time Clippers fan here in LA, I appreciated Bobby as a complementary piece (and said that here at the time), but also was very aware that the Clips let him walk in deference to an unproven one-year vet (Q Ross). Basically, Bobby parleyed an injury to Kerry Kittles into a starting job and the increased role equalled MIP. He's not a special player, just a good 6th man when healthy. The rose-colored glasses through which almost everyone here viewed Bobby's MIP award are the same ones they used to look at Magloire's "all star" credential as meaning anything at all. Mo...whom Sloan let walk at a time when he was going to be cheap and the Jazz didn't have an established PG...is also best viewed with those glasses on...and usually has been.

None of the Bucks players--except maybe Redd--have the resume to be talking smack about any coach or executive. Almost every one of them is overpaid relative to their contribution to winning basketball games.