Monday 03/24/2008 - Game Thread

NetsForce · Post #461 » by **NetsForce** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:52 am

Oh god I hope the Lakers don't play the Warriors in the first round the ref-excuse-making would reach an all-time high on RealGM :-?

Sedale Threatt · Post #462 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:52 am

NetsForce wrote:Oh god I hope the Lakers don't play the Warriors in the first round the ref-excuse-making would reach an all-time high on RealGM

That's going to be tough. Suns fans set the bar pretty high last year.

shobe_81 · Post #463 » by **shobe_81** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:52 am

LMAO at two idiot Kobe haters in this thread trying to bring up the Lakers vs Queens (kings) WCF series! These guys should be also paid for hating Kobe so much. If they received a penny for every Kobe hate, I'm sure they'd be millionaires by now

Anyways, back to the subject of TODAY:

You can look at it from 2 different views:

1. Monta ran into and through Fish while Fish was back-paddling and brought him to the ground.

2. Fish grabbed Monta and pulled him down

Choose!

yehyeh82 · Post #464 » by **yehyeh82** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:53 am

The MVPlaya wrote:It SHOULD have been a no-call given the situation of the game, but I UNDERSTAND why it was called. Make no mistake about it, Fisher didn't "pull" Monta down. Even tho he did some acting, his hands were up and Monta definitely gave him a little push and then Fish grabbed Monta when he was about to fall. Still, if it happend to my team I'd be pissed, but if Monta keeps his hands up nothing is called, it is what it is.

So if that's the case, is Fisher allowed to wrap his arms around Monta from the time they start until the foul was called on Monta? There was a lot of physicality happening on that play (Kobe and Harrington were locked up as well) and to pick out some supposed time when Monta pushed Fisher (which I didn't see, I saw Fisher's foot trip on someone else's causing him to lose balance) just doesn't seem justified. I personally can't understand it with how that whole sequence played out.

andykeikei · Post #465 » by **andykeikei** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:53 am

Sedale Threatt wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

That's going to be tough. Suns fans set the bar pretty high last year.

They are indeed the team to beat :clap:

NBA on NBC · Post #466 » by **NBA on NBC** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:53 am

Someone give me a tissue. My eyes are swelling from all this crying. I don't want to have to go to work tomorrow and have it obvious that I was crying my heart out the previous night.

shobe_81 · Post #467 » by **shobe_81** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:54 am

NetsForce wrote:Oh god I hope the Lakers don't play the Warriors in the first round the ref-excuse-making would reach an all-time high on RealGM

I hope they do, so we can beat them really BADLY with Bynum and Gasol. They would get DESTROYED on the boards and would have 0 inside defense if Bynum & Gasol played!

NBA on NBC · Post #468 » by **NBA on NBC** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:55 am

shobe_81 wrote:1. Monta ran into and through Fish while Fish was grabbing Monta, holding him back, and brought him to the ground as he back peddled.

2. Fish grabbed Monta and pulled him down to make Monta land on him to draw an offensive foul.

NBA on NBC · Post #469 » by **NBA on NBC** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:57 am

shobe_81 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I hope they do, so we can beat them really BADLY with Bynum and Gasol. They would get DESTROYED on the boards and would have 0 inside defense if Bynum & Gasol played!

HELL YEAH BABY YEAAAAAH!!!! LETS GO!!!!!! WOOOHOOO!!!!! OH HELL YEAH OH-EM-GEE THE LAKERS WILL KILL THE WARRIORS FASHO!!!! LETS GO LAKERS!!!!

NBA on NBC · Post #470 » by **NBA on NBC** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:57 am

goodnight guys.

shobe_81 · Post #471 » by **shobe_81** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:58 am

NBA on NBC wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Good job editing! Now stop crying!

1. Fish might have grabbed him because he was falling BECAUSE Monta was pushing him?

NBA on NBC · Post #472 » by **NBA on NBC** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:05 am

More like,

1. Fisher grabs holds on to Monta
2. Monta tries to go around the Fisher while Fisher is grabbing him
3. Fisher falls down and and takes Monta with him, holding on to Monta's back to make sure Monta lands on him to draw an offensive foul.

Nah, the truth is that Fisher held on to Monta's back because he wanted Monta to save him from falling and injuring himself. As you can see, Derek Fisher was falling down and was hanging on to Monta for dear life. It's Monta's fault that he couldn't save Fisher from falling while Monta's team was trying to run a play to win the game. Monta should have been a gentleman and prevented Fisher from getting hurt when Fisher obviously needed Monta's help which is why he held on to him.

blah blah blah more arguing after this post. blah blah blah.

pro2020 · Post #473 » by **pro2020** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:09 am

And, imagine this, the play of the game came when the Lakers were on defense, Derek Fisher drawing a foul after Monta Ellis bulldozed him on an inbounds play with four seconds left in overtime.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketbal ... ?track=rss

I love the LA Times. :noway:

"I didn't try to set it up to get an offensive foul," Fisher said. "I thought it was going to be a no-call. When the whistle blew, it caught me off-guard as well."

The MVPlaya · Post #474 » by **The MVPlaya** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:09 am

yehyeh82 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

So if that's the case, is Fisher allowed to wrap his arms around Monta from the time they start until the foul was called on Monta? There was a lot of physicality happening on that play (Kobe and Harrington were locked up as well) and to pick out some supposed time when Monta pushed Fisher (which I didn't see, I saw Fisher's foot trip on someone else's causing him to lose balance) just doesn't seem justified. I personally can't understand it with how that whole sequence played out.

You're reaching. A few players were locked up, Warriors too, as you said. Why would they randomly call a foul on a Laker when Warriors were locking up as well? Monta gave a little push, Fisher grabbed him to hold his balance, and it was a spill. Like I said, I would hate to see that call against my team, but IF Monta doesn't take his arms and give Fish a little push, nobody falls, nothing is called.

The MVPlaya · Post #475 » by **The MVPlaya** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:11 am

NBA on NBC wrote:More like,

1. Fisher grabs holds on to Monta
2. Monta tries to go around the Fisher while Fisher is grabbing him
3. Fisher falls down and and takes Monta with him, holding on to Monta's back to make sure Monta lands on him to draw an offensive foul.

Watch the replay again. lol, it was funny how on the Warriors telecast on the 2nd 3rd 4th 5th etc replays they only showed when Fisher grabbed on to Monta was he was falling. But if you notice on the 1ST replay you could CLEARLY see Fisher pull both of his hands off Monta, and when he gave Fish a little push, THEN Fish grabbed onto Monta to try to keep himself from falling.

Post #476 » by **studcrackers** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:14 am

HouMac wrote:Tonight's call or the 4th qtr of Game 6 2002 WCF - Which would you guys say was worse? LA benefitting from both atrocities. Both **** ups so incomprehensible that you had to believe something else was going on entirely. So, which one is worse?

different, i remember hearing of a screwjob to the kings but dont remember it well, what i do remember is game 5 and 6 2006 finals

/end bitching

and since ive still got like 9 pages to catch up, has there been a youtube on this questionable call?

JellosJigglin · Post #477 » by **JellosJigglin** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:29 am

Whichever team would have lost the GS-LAL game would have had a lot to bitch about regarding the refs. GS got a lot of fortunate calls/noncalls at the end of regulation and shouldn't have even gone to OT. And Kobe getting 5 free throws in 52 minutes, in a game like that, with all the hand checking and jersey grabbing that GS gets away with, that was just odd.

Vanhoo · Post #478 » by **Vanhoo** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:33 am

JellosJigglin wrote:Whichever team would have lost the GS-LAL game would have had a lot to bitch about regarding the refs. GS got a lot of fortunate calls/noncalls at the end of regulation and shouldn't have even gone to OT. And Kobe getting 5 free throws in 52 minutes, in a game like that, with all the hand checking and jersey grabbing that GS gets away with, that was just odd.

LMAO, what a joke some people here are.

JellosJigglin · Post #479 » by **JellosJigglin** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:40 am

Vanhoo wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

LMAO, what a joke some people here are.

You're angry your team lost. You're frustrated. I'll let your insults slide. I know what you're going through.

Vanhoo · Post #480 » by **Vanhoo** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:46 am

JellosJigglin wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

You're angry your team lost. You're frustrated. I'll let your insults slide. I know what you're going through.

Just continue to compare a possible missed foul in the 1st quarter with 8min to go or a possible foul that occurred during the beginning of the 3rd quarter, as if any non-call that happens through out a 48min game is comparable to a call that was made with 4sec left in which a team didn't even have the opportunity to control their own out come.