How to improve the lottery draft & tanking problem?

daniel3 · Post #101 » by **daniel3** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:16 am

thetennisyao wrote:make the lottery picks' salary 10 milion/year guaranteed. haha

You know, that makes the most sense. Get rid of the rookie scale and do it like NFL where #1 picks get like $30 to $40 million in guaranteed money.

XcalibuR · Post #102 » by **XcalibuR** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:53 am

Heat3 wrote:its a lottery system. Tanking doesn't improve your chances!

ya it does. if all 14 non playoff teams have the same chances, then tanking doesn't improve your chances.

XcalibuR · Post #103 » by **XcalibuR** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:56 am

I think the NBA should get some sort of private investigators and what not. If they can get solid evidence that a team is tanking, they should be allowed to punish that team for dishonoring the integrity of the league.

Texas Longhorns · Post #104 » by **Texas Longhorns** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:12 am

Make all the scrub teams play in the playoffs.

CircleCitysportsfan · Post #105 » by **CircleCitysportsfan** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:19 am

The current system is fine. I would just like for them to air the process live. But they won't do that because it's more crooked than my private part.

Post #106 » by **studcrackers** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:46 am

^^^ spoken like a true pacers fan (but what can i say i love a conspiracy theory and if the pacers were good again id love to watch them again)

i think ignoring the last 20 games is a good idea, i hate the idea of everyteam having the worst odds, no matter what u do w/the lottery the worst team still has to have the best odds for the #1 pick

i saw a theory of splitting the seasons into thirds and go by those records. i wish i knew how to explain it better but cant put it into words better then that at the moment. and id think that could really prevent tanking or keep it from happening more frequently IMO

CircleCitysportsfan · Post #107 » by **CircleCitysportsfan** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:10 am

studcrackers wrote:^^^ spoken like a true pacers fan (but what can i say i love a conspiracy theory and if the pacers were good again id love to watch them again)

i think ignoring the last 20 games is a good idea, i hate the idea of everyteam having the worst odds, no matter what u do w/the lottery the worst team still has to have the best odds for the #1 pick

i saw a theory of splitting the seasons into thirds and go by those records. i wish i knew how to explain it better but cant put it into words better then that at the moment. and id think that could really prevent tanking or keep it from happening more frequently IMO

Pacer fans are always right. :lol:

Manocad · Post #108 » by **Manocad** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:41 pm

Heat3 wrote:its a lottery system. Tanking doesn't improve your chances!

Wrong.
The number of ping pong balls each team has is based on how they finished. The worst team in the league therefore has the highest number of ping pong balls in the system and the best chance of getting the #1 pick.

amcoolio · Post #109 » by **amcoolio** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:54 pm

New Orleans tanked while Charlotte did not a few seasons ago.....they ended up tied on the last day, won a coin flip, and won Chris Paul and left the Bobcats with Raymond Felton.

Charlotte always seems to become a really good team when they are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. It has cost us a lot.

shrink · Post #110 » by **shrink** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:31 am

I agree that tanking is a big issue, but with the huge disparity of talent a top pick might bring (think LeBron), the league needs to place super-talented players onto teams that need them.

Advocates of the strategy "give all the lottery teams an even chance" should take a look at history to see why this would be ill-advised. This approach was tried from 1985-1989, but was abandoned because good teams could just miss the play-offs, and acquire a world-beating talent. In fact, from 1990-1993, a ping pong ball system was used with easier odds (the worst team got 11 balls, the second worst team got 10, the 11th worst got 1 ball). It was also abandoned after a 21-61 Orlando got Penny Hardaway in 93 to improve to 41-41, then with only one ball, got lucky and added Shaq the next year. Only the Jordan Bulls could stop them. Anyway, the new (current) odds weighting made this an even less likely occurance the very next year.

http://aol.nba.com/history/lottery_probabilities.html

In any event, I think that while I oppose tanking vehemently, tossing a guy like LeBron on a team like the 2008 Nuggets or Trailblazers would just destroy league parity, so I do not think it would be a good idea to give all lottery teams an equal chance at the top pick.