Stack's opinion of Ginobili and why Tony Allen can relate

Post #21 » by **ParticleMan** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:44 pm

I'd love to have Manu too, but I'd still be annoyed about his flopping. He is incredibly talented. It's really just a shame he resorts to all these cheap tactics to draw fouls. The thing is, most of the times, he's correct, it IS a foul, but I just find all his acting crap to be unnecessary and detracting from his game. Just play ball, and let the refs ref.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #22 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:21 pm

How come no one ever mentions that, with respect to the hard foul by Horry last year in the SA vs Pho series, Nash did a MAJOR flop acting job when he went into the scorer's table? It's very obvious.

Maybe he was trying too hard to emulate Manu?

DelMonte West · Post #23 » by **DelMonte West** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:10 am

Iverson's the worst at this in the league by far. Nobody flops and acts as blatantly as he does. That last game against Denver was disgusting, and to make things worse Carmelo is becoming his understudy. Kobe and Manu are pretty bad but nowhere near AI level.

You know it's getting bad when you have the option to take charges in basketball video games. I couldn't believe it when I saw it...

phoolishly_insane · Post #24 » by **phoolishly_insane** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:19 am

Manu got all the flopping from Soccer.

aboubata · Post #25 » by **aboubata** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:49 am

my favorite one is billups, the guy doesn't flop but he really knows how to use the refs.

and how the commentators calling these veteran moves

Post #26 » by **tlee324** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:53 pm

ParticleMan wrote:seems like there are more and more guys in the league who try to play the refs instead of playing basketball.

I think this has taken away from the sport more than anything, too.

celticfan42487 · Post #27 » by **celticfan42487** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:37 pm

The worst part of Iverson, is he constantly complains. Manu gets away with floping on both sides of the floor constatnly but he rarely complaines about it, Iverson.. every single play.

I'd would of loved to have AI two years ago, I would love to trade Ray for Manu right now. But I do not, and will not ever have respect to their cheap abuse of the rules.

This thing shows up in most great games though, one of my friends personality is use such legal but albeit unhonorable tactics often so I have a predispostion against it.

campybatman · Post #28 » by **campybatman** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:08 pm

aboubata wrote:my favorite one is billups, the guy doesn't flop but he really knows how to use the refs.

and how the commentators calling these veteran moves

Yeah, it's called being crafty. Or if you're a veteran player, you bait your opponent. It's like, no one ever sees the person who initiated the fight but always seem to be looking when the other person retaliates. Because his reaction was loud and the perpetrator's action was subtle or sly. It's dirty... But, that's why it's a veteran tactic. Stockton was the master of this. Peers of his time saw him as one of the dirtiest players in the game like Ric Flair.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #29 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:55 pm

No doubt. As great as Stockton and Malone were, they were both dirty ****, throwing elbows and everything. Kareem was the same way. I'll never forget when Bird finally got tired of Kareem's elbows to the head and threw the ball at him and started in on him before the refs broke it up.