Chad Ford Tosses Out More GM Possibilities

europa · Post #1 » by **europa** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:41 pm

A few more names from Ford during his chat today:

Pat (Oshkosh): Chad, any rumors on who will be the GM of the Bucks? Will anyone want the job?

SportsNation Chad Ford: I'm not sure they'll be able to persuade a top tier candidate to come there. They're probably better off going with someone who's been mentored by a top tier GM. Someone like the Pacer David Morway, the Spurs Dennis Lindsey or the Suns David Griffin. Or ... I know a number of sports columnists who'd take the job.

LUKE23 · Post #2 » by **LUKE23** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:46 pm

I would take Lindsey for sure. He's been a right hand guy in probably the top organization in the last decade. Suns have had plenty of success, although I don't know how long Griffin has been there.

Sounds like pure speculation either way, no info.

msiris · Post #3 » by **msiris** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:47 pm

europa wrote:A few more names from Ford during his chat today:

Pat (Oshkosh): Chad, any rumors on who will be the GM of the Bucks? Will anyone want the job?

SportsNation Chad Ford: I'm not sure they'll be able to persuade a top tier candidate to come there. They're probably better off going with someone who's been mentored by a top tier GM. Someone like the Pacer David Morway, the Spurs Dennis Lindsey or the Suns David Griffin. Or ... I know a number of sports columnists who'd take the job.

I would take the Spurs guy, since they have been winning for awhile now. Why does everyone think the Pacers is a good place to start? They have not proven much as of late.

xTitan · Post #4 » by **xTitan** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:48 pm

It just doesn't matter......a JR. exec will not have enough power....I still think the better jr. exec's would pass.

jerrod · Post #5 » by **jerrod** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:54 pm

xTitan wrote:It just doesn't matter......a JR. exec will not have enough power....I still think the better jr. exec's would pass.

we're really stuck here

the big names that would have the status to get to make their own decisions (at least somewhat) won't come here, and the guys that have been assistants on good teams and have seen how to build a team won't have enough power to be anything but larry harris part 2

bummer

Neapolitan Buck · Post #6 » by **Neapolitan Buck** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:58 pm

At this point, Dennis Lindsey is the guy I'd like to see here, but I don't know how much power he would have.

Bucks_Revenge · Post #7 » by **Bucks_Revenge** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:02 pm

so are ignoring that Ford mention Bill Simmons......just a thought.

El Duderino · Post #8 » by **El Duderino** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:02 pm

xTitan wrote:It just doesn't matter......a JR. exec will not have enough power....I still think the better jr. exec's would pass.

Maybe one would pass, but there are only 30 GM jobs in the NBA and it would come with a sizable bump in pay. I'd be surprised if multiple assistant GM's passed on the job if offered.

Fight the Tank · Post #9 » by **Fight the Tank** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:36 pm

Get ready for Davey Babcock.

NotYoAvgNBAFan · Post #10 » by **NotYoAvgNBAFan** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:52 pm

LUKE23 wrote:I would take Lindsey for sure. He's been a right hand guy in probably the top organization in the last decade. Suns have had plenty of success, although I don't know how long Griffin has been there.

Sounds like pure speculation either way, no info.

A TYPICAL MILWAUKEE FAN ANSWER! Change your mindset people! Think like winners!
If you dont hurry teams like the Sixers, Hawks, and Magic will pass us by for good if not the Raptors and Wizards, to say nothing of the other top 5 teams!

Always settling for mediocrity with this inferiority 'no one will come here complex!' :crazy:

NO NO NO NO NO! :nonono:

Get an experienced and proven guy! You did it before with Erine Grunfeld and Mike Dunleavy and George Karl! Wake up!

None of this obsucure bull! Get a competant and proven guy and not some inexperienced smoe!

Get a vision Milwaukee and some initiative and sell this proud franchise! You have to let a guy do his thing and come in here and turn it around HIS WAY!

Stop with this losing and hopeless mentality around here! Forget Chad Ford's lame brain bullcrap!

Learn to expect to get the best GM and the best coach out there for this team and get rid of every single weak ass player on this roster that has embarassed this franchise and the entire league with this sorry ass play!

I am digusted. Turn this thing around. We do not need settle to run an apprenticeship here.

There are proven guys out there. Kohl must agree to lay off and let these men do their jobs and pay them accordingly or get out of the industry!

No more chic or innovative picks for GM and dumb ideas like hiring a sports columinist! Take this next hire seriously!

trwi7 · Post #11 » by **trwi7** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:55 pm

Yeah you guys, no obsucure, inexperienced smores. Wait was he trying to say obscure and schmo? So confused.

Bucks_Revenge · Post #12 » by **Bucks_Revenge** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:56 pm

so according to Ford we should of just kept LH......whats the point firing him if you cannot find anyone better your only going to hire someone with less experience..

Fight the Tank · Post #13 » by **Fight the Tank** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:00 am

Bucks_Revenge wrote:so according to Ford we should of just kept LH......whats the point firing him if you cannot find anyone better your only going to hire someone with less experience..

Somebody had to be the fall guy. It wasn't going to be Ron Walter.

emunney · Post #14 » by **emunney** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:23 am

Lindsey hasn't even been working for the Spurs for a full year. Not that the Rockets aren't a good franchise also, but don't think we'd be getting the co-architect of the Spurs' successes.

Chuck Diesel · Post #15 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:38 am

I want to bring in about three of these candidates and give them each different titles. Think they would come if we gave them each a raise?

smauss · Post #16 » by **smauss** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:46 am

xTitan wrote:It just doesn't matter......a JR. exec will not have enough power....I still think the better jr. exec's would pass.

europa · Post #17 » by **europa** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:49 am

I agree with El Dude, there are only 30 GM jobs in the NBA. If you're trying to move up the ladder you have two choices - take a job with a meddling owner or sit back and hope a better job comes along later. But what if the better job never comes along? You've missed your chance and maybe your only chance to be an NBA GM.

Now some of those guys may decide Kohl isn't worth it. But I don't think all of them will. Somebody will be willing to jump into this mess because the opportunity to be a GM on any team doesn't come along very often and if you can succeed with this joke of a team then your reputation really will escalate. So I'm not convinced that Kohl will strike out completely if he's really determined to bring in a fresh set of eyes (and ultimately that's the biggest question here).

People can counter by saying none of that will matter because Kohl and his cronies will still be around. I don't dispute that. However, my hope is that at least if someone with a strong pedigree is brought in perhaps that person won't fail with the "Plan B" moves and other moves that he's forced to make the way Harris so frequently did in recent years. That's pretty much my only hope at this point if a GM with a proven track record of success can't be hired (and I don't see that happening with Walsh no longer an option).

emunney · Post #18 » by **emunney** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:51 am

I'm with you two. Somebody's going to take it. I also think whoever it is is going to get some slack, at least in the first offseason, to reshape the team. Kohl will still have to sign off, but given the current the direction of the team I can see him being a little more malleable to suggestions from someone who wasn't involved in digging the ditch we currently lay in.

GrandAdmiralDan · Post #19 » by **GrandAdmiralDan** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:26 am

europa wrote:I agree with El Dude, there are only 30 GM jobs in the NBA. If you're trying to move up the ladder you have two choices - take a job with a meddling owner or sit back and hope a better job comes along later. But what if the better job never comes along? You've missed your chance and maybe your only chance to be an NBA GM.

Now some of those guys may decide Kohl isn't worth it. But I don't think all of them will. Somebody will be willing to jump into this mess because the opportunity to be a GM on any team doesn't come along very often and if you can succeed with this joke of a team then your reputation really will escalate. So I'm not convinced that Kohl will strike out completely if he's really determined to bring in a fresh set of eyes (and ultimately that's the biggest question here).

Perhaps.
But almost all of the front office people with any kind of good reputation at all will pass, assuming the better career move is to just wait for another job to open up in the future. If they remain in their current positions, their reps will remain intact and they will remain at the top of the candidate list when another GM position opens up.

Obviously there is a certain amount of money you can throw at someone to make them willing to take that kind of gamble. I don't know how likely Kohl is to bring out a truckload of cash for someone who isn't a "name" GM when he isn't even keen anymore on doing that for someone who IS a "name"

The people who will be interested would be front office people who aren't really viewed as top candidates and likely would never get the chance if a preferable position opened up.

So we'd have to hope we come across another organization's Larry Harris. Larry Harris would never have been considered for some other team's GM position when we hired him. Only after he became a GM (within his first year and ahlf on the job) did he earn himself an extremely favorable reputation among other front office people. This has carried over and will give him the opportunity to land a GM position with another team in the near future. So for all the crap that he went through here, being GM here did make future GM opportunities possible whereas that would not have happened otherwise.

El Duderino · Post #20 » by **El Duderino** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:47 am

emunney wrote:I'm with you two. Somebody's going to take it. I also think whoever it is is going to get some slack, at least in the first offseason, to reshape the team. Kohl will still have to sign off, but given the current the direction of the team I can see him being a little more malleable to suggestions from someone who wasn't involved in digging the ditch we currently lay in.

That's my hope. Whoever the new guy is, he's given slack early on the make moves and if those moves pan out well, Kohl trusts the guy enough to mostly stay out of his way.