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Post#21 » by ankle420breaker » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:59 am

IggyTheBEaST wrote:carl, are you saying you wouldnt be happy if we added okafor? Id be pretty happy about that addition. He isnt an offensive monster but he would average at least 16 on the sixers. Possibly more. Do you know how many times Andre Miller finds Reggie Evans in the post but wisely goes elsewhere. Plus him and Daly would be one of the best defensive frontcourt tandems


I'm with you in regards to the positivity towards the idea of adding Okafor to the mix, but I see the likelihood of him averaging 16ppg being very unfavorable. Don't get me wrong, its possible, but if he can't get it done offensively on a lottery bound Charlotte squad I don't see it happening here. I do think he could provide around 14, 11, and 2bpg night in and night out, which is still a more than significant upgrade and would do wonders for the teams overall success.
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Post#22 » by STChaser » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:13 am

THIS is why you don't get rid of a guy like Iguodala - and this is where I think he and Kobe are similar, for better or for worse;

http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.co ... p?ID=64211


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Post#23 » by dbodner » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:25 am

Why draft another defensive minded center when we have no PF? Id rather go after Darrel Arthur or Anthony Randolph than draft Thabeet or Hibbert. Or trade up and get my boy Blake Griffin


If I'm convinced either of those can be a starting PF, I'd be open to drafting them. I haven't seen enough from either to see that potential yet. If I don't have confidence in them developing into a starting PF, I'm inclined to go best upside over reaching for a position.
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Post#24 » by STChaser » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:27 am

My guess is that DiLeo WILL find us the best available PF when the time comes. The guy is a genius at finding diamonds in the rough.

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Post#25 » by carltong23 » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:32 am

dbodner wrote:If I'm convinced either of those can be a starting PF, I'd be open to drafting them. I haven't seen enough from either to see that potential yet. If I don't have confidence in them developing into a starting PF, I'm inclined to go best upside over reaching for a position.


I agree that we shouldnt reach. And I also havent seen a whole lot of any of these guys play. But based on what I can find on the net, all of these guys have just as much or more potential than drafting another center like Thabeet or Hibbert like some are suggesting. Sammy D can not play PF. That has disaster written all over it.

If we need a backup center that badly, we can find one for cheap in free agency like Diop or Kwame. But theres no need to waste a 1st rounder on either of them.
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Post#26 » by tk76 » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:30 am

I don't claim to know if a guy like Thabeet is worth picking, as I haven't seen him play enough.

My point is that we are way ahead of schedule in our rebuild, and should think about trying to go deep in the playoffs next year. I don't see any #17 pick coming in and being a good starting PF in the next 2 years, but we might be able to grab an imposing back-up center to fill a glaring hole when Sam is on the bench.

Maybe that project center will develop into a starter in 3 years- and could replace Sam. If not, at least we have another legit center to throw at teams like Orlando, and he would be cheaper than Diop (who would be a decent option too.)

I agree that PF is our main need, but I'm not confident or patient enough to try to get our PF in the draft. We need to make a move to get a FA or trade for a vet PF sometime in the next 14 months and not take the risk that a pick may not develop. I'm not against drafting a PF, but we would still need to go out and get a vet who is ready to fill the hole in our lineup right away.
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Post#27 » by SendEm » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:24 pm

Iggy right now is looking like our best hope to becoming a contender, and that would be by TRADING him...
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Post#28 » by freshie2 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:27 pm

If you can bring back quality to improve the team, then yes...not by replacing him with Jamario Moon or an elder Grant Hill. I'm sure there are deals out there that would make sense, but the one's you come up with just don't make sense.

Somewhere between your low balling and other's optimistic view lies the truth...given his actual production on the court, it's probably closer to the optimistic view than the developmental league bound view you bring to the table.

Since you are ahead of the pack, what can Iguodala bring back in a S/T?
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Post#29 » by freshie2 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:06 pm

Send Em...from your insider perspective, what's Iguodala's relative value in a S/T? What are those key pieces that put this franchise closer to a championship?
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Post#30 » by Salvistine24 » Tue Apr 1, 2008 3:08 pm

i didnt feel like making another iggy thread...now i dont think this is a big deal and i think iggy is just trying to say what he thought was right but and again i dont think this is a big deal...heres what he said about the last few games:

But after the loss to the Cavs, Andre Iguodala indicated that the Sixers had lost their edge.

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Post#31 » by dbodner » Tue Apr 1, 2008 4:04 pm

As long as Iggy uses "we", I don't see how his comments can be a negative. saying we need to maintain our focus is one of the most common cliches at sports. It's synonymous with "taking it one game at a time" (which is really just a fancy way of saying to stay focused).
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Post#32 » by SendEm » Tue Apr 1, 2008 4:41 pm

If Iggy can't be counted on to guard the best players at his position then I think that he MUST be able to not have that diminish his offensive contributions. Iggy normally has lackluster offensive games when he is being abused by the player that he is guarding. he tends to fall into a funk and disappear for stretches during those games. Amare Stoudemire , Carmelo Anthony, and Joe Johnson are examples of players who have defensive games where they get scored on but offensively they'll have 35 points and make the big plays for their team.
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Post#33 » by Mik317 » Tue Apr 1, 2008 5:36 pm

Ironically, Iggy had an okay game. He shot well. scored his average and I think he didn't have as many turnovers. Iggy could've played better but in that cavs game he wasn't the problem. If the enitre team would've have showed up to Rodney Carney" HOW TO DUNKZ HAWD:101....we might have won.
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