Just how big is that veteran PG wish list?

[mharris3]

This works much better in a spreadsheet but with all the banter about the need for a veteran PG - I thought I'd make sure we're not overlooking someone, and otherwise develop a list of possibilities. Below are some of the top PGs, statistically speaking - with anyone over 32 years of age eliminated (probably not worth talking about Kidd at this point)

Name/Team/Age/# Years Rem/ This Year's $/ Next Year's $/ Comments/ Discussion Thread:

Feel free to discuss, edit, and let me know if you see any omissions worthy of consideration. If there are any dedicated threads on these players let me know and I'll link.

Chris Paul NOR 22 1 $3,615,960 $4,574,189 Hoping for poor attendance & cheap ownership
Baron Davis GSW 28 1 $16,440,000 $17,180,000 Only available if GSW reboots http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=773670
Allen Iverson DEN 32 1 $20,109,375 $21,937,500 too old; too much of a chemistry risk
Deron Williams UTA 23 1 $4,010,640 $5,069,448 Likely untouchable
Chauncey Billups DET 31 4 $10,000,000 $11,050,000 Core of DET team
Dwyane Wade MIA 26 3 $13,041,250 $14,410,581 even with injury; he's untouchable
Maurice Williams MIL 25 5 $7,750,000 $8,353,000 defense & contract are negatives http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=774753
Jose Calderon TOR 26 1 $4,050,000 $4,350,000 Is there enough value outside of our big 3 to land him? http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=773379
Joe Johnson ATL 26 2 $13,488,377 $14,232,566 Not a true PG; redundant to Roy
Monta Ellis GSW 22 0 $770,610 $0 will go for big $ this summer http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=28&topicdays=0&start=50
Gilbert Arenas WAS 26 1 $11,946,667 $12,800,000 stock is low - might be attainable? http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=773670
Andre Miller PHI 32 1 $9,366,666 $9,999,999 PHI sounds pretty happy with him
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=782490
Devin Harris NJN 25 1 $3,995,003 $7,800,000 Just traded - unlikely to move again
Leandro Barbosa PHO 25 4 $5,600,000 $6,100,000 part of PHO present & future
Jamaal Tinsley IND 30 3 $6,300,000 $6,750,000 Overpaid & injury-prone
Jason Terry DAL 30 4 $8,287,500 $9,075,000 More shooter than distributor
Rafer Alston HOU 31 2 $4,550,000 $4,900,000 Too old; too average
Kirk Hinrich CHI 27 4 $11,000,000 $10,000,000 Popular choice; big contract http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=772000
Raymond Felton CHA 23 1 $3,274,440 $4,148,715 Has not progressed
Tony Parker SAS 25 3 $10,500,000 $11,550,000 Core part of SAS
Beno Udrih SAC 25 0 $761,544 $0 SAC appears committed to him
Daniel Gibson CLE 22 0 $687,456 $0 Not a distributor
Mike Bibby ATL 29 1 $14,175,000 $15,225,000 Just traded - unlikely to move again
Jameer Nelson ORL 26 5 $1,961,609 $5,555,555 ORL already regretting contract
Rashad McCants MIN 23 1 $1,769,160 $2,620,125 More SG, than PG
Rajon Rondo BOS 22 2 $1,372,320 $1,646,784 Why should BOS change?
T.j. Ford TOR 24 1 $5,800,000 $6,200,000 Does TOR keep 2 top 30 PGs? Healthy?


My second cut, at whittling the list is the below names which I have seen most frequently discussed on this board all have 1 year remaining with the exception of Hinrich. We might have two chances at the 1 year contract remaining. You can argue about how real even this list is, it gets small very quickly!

Chris Paul
Baron Davis
Deron Williams
Jose Calderon
Gilbert Arenas
Andre Miller
Devin Harris
Kirk Hinrich
Mike Bibby
TJ Ford

P.S. I just realized there is a very related thread on this topic and will link it here. Hopefully I added something by consolidating information on ages, salaries, etc.
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=771600[/url]

[Khazim]

Calderon, Harris, and Hinrich are the only decent options that are at least semi-realistic IMO. Probably just Hinrich even.

[Telfaire]

I think Nelson could be great for us, he combines playmaking skills, an outside shot and good D. We might be able to get him for less than he's worth, something that revoles around Blake, Jack and Frye. The only problem is that he's got PPP status on his contract.

[Fitz303]

Yeah the only guys that we have more than a 1% chance at (Paul, Williams) that I would like to see are Harris or Calderon. I doubt NJ moves Harris unfortunately, and we'll see with Calderon. Hinrich used to intrest me, but he really seems to have taken a step back. he doesnt attck the rim at all like he used to

[Mr Odd]

Hinrich is not that much better then
Blake, hes better but not by much.. .

The Blazers need a PG that can break
the defenses down. If whatever PG
the Blazers get cant do that then
its a waste of time. Blazers wont
get anywhere unless their PG can
do that, no if's.. .and's.. .or but's.

[Red Robot]

I don't think the Blazers need a star here. A smaller, "moneyball"-style acquisition would work just fine. While it would certainly be nice, we don't really need a star distributor. Somebody who's respectable on defense, who can penetrate a little and hit open shots. Also somebody who doesn't dominate the ball or try to do too much. Getting a Baron Davis or a Gilbert Arenas wouldn't be a good move IMO.

A few that look like good options: Hinrich, Daniels, Watson, Gibson, Milller, Duhon

Devin Harris would be ideal, but he's almost as unrealistic as Paul or Williams.

Somebody like Stoudamire, Fisher, or Cassell could help a lot. I'd even take a (skeptical) look at guys like Claxton, Alston, and Tinsley. I don't know. Short of getting some kind of star, Steve Blake is actually a pretty good option.

[Fitz303]

Hinrich is not that much better then
Blake, hes better but not by much.. .

The Blazers need a PG that can break
the defenses down. If whatever PG
the Blazers get cant do that then
its a waste of time. Blazers wont
get anywhere unless their PG can
do that, no if's.. .and's.. .or but's.

I agree and thats my problem with the vetern PG move. Other than Harris and Calderon, theres nobody who fits what we need. I dont see a good chance of us getting one of them, but what KP wants, KP usually gets. So hopefully he can get Calderon this summer, but if not, I think we need to draft the best PG that we can and let Blake hold down the fort until hes ready.

[Yadadimean]

Yeah the only guys that we have more than a 1% chance at (Paul, Williams) that I would like to see are Harris or Calderon. I doubt NJ moves Harris unfortunately, and we'll see with Calderon. Hinrich used to intrest me, but he really seems to have taken a step back. he doesnt attck the rim at all like he used to

But on that note, with the arrival of Harris in NJ, we might be able to snatch up Marcus Williams somehow. He had been reported to have character issues coming out of college, but I have yet to hear of him being a malcontent or having off court issues since arriving to the NBA. Would he be worth it? He seemed like a pretty damn good understudy to Kidd.

[Telfaire]

I think we can add Banks to this list. He's a quick and strong defender, can shoot 3's at a high percentage, and he's a slasher. A bit turnover prone, but still way better than Jack.

[Mr Odd]

Personally I think we throw everyone &
everything (outside of Roy, LMA, Oden)
into getting a good PG. We need to aim
higher then run-of-the-mill players.. .
But, again.. .easier said then done.

[Spykes]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Blazers take a chance on a guy like Shawn Livingston. He'll be a RFA this summer, but I'm not sure if the Clips are intent on keeping him. If we can sign him to a reasonable contract, he could be a low risk/high reward kind of player.

[Telfaire]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Blazers take a chance on a guy like Shawn Livingston. He'll be a RFA this summer, but I'm not sure if the Clips are intent on keeping him. If we can sign him to a reasonable contract, he could be a low risk/high reward kind of player.

I think Livingston could a great fit as a backup PG who can guard SG's while Rudy guards the PG...but I have a problem with him not playing at all this season, maybe we'll go after him in 2009 once he's proven himself to be healthy (Clippers would almost certainly resign him for the QO)

[Fitz303]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Blazers take a chance on a guy like Shawn Livingston. He'll be a RFA this summer, but I'm not sure if the Clips are intent on keeping him. If we can sign him to a reasonable contract, he could be a low risk/high reward kind of player.

I would be ecstatic if we could get Livingston. S&T to get him for Jack and our 09 1st. If he were able to somehow come back from that injury, our team would be set for a long time

[Yadadimean]

I hate to say it, but Livingston's career is effectively over at this point. He tore every single piece of connective tissue in his knee. I would call it a miracle if he were able to recover and be half as good as he used to be. If I was gonna gamble on a guy who has question marks as to his durability I would go for TJ Ford.

[Goldbum]

I think Ford would be perfect. I see that as an opportunity to buy low and maybe pick up a final type peice.

[taufblazers33]

Hinrich is not that much better then
Blake, hes better but not by much.. .

Hinrich is way, way better than blake.

[swede]

None of those players listed are a Nate McMillan PG.. Kirk maybe. I would make a serious run at Antonio Daniels and Livingston.

[Effigy]

I think NJ could be persuaded to give up Harris. Our 13 pick, plus Sergio or Jack, plus Martell, I bet that gets it done. Might depend on how Martell plays without Roy.

[Yadadimean]

I think NJ could be persuaded to give up Harris. Our 13 pick, plus Sergio or Jack, plus Martell, I bet that gets it done. Might depend on how Martell plays without Roy.

Interesting. They seem like they think pretty highly of Jack. If we gave up #13, Jack and Sergio + whatever filler (preferably not Martell or Travis) they might bite, but I think they like Harris so who knows?

[Butter]

I think NJ could be persuaded to give up Harris. Our 13 pick, plus Sergio or Jack, plus Martell, I bet that gets it done. Might depend on how Martell plays without Roy.

I don't think the Nets will even consider giving up Harris. Their claiming they've got their new Big 3. He's really done a good job for them. It's possible, but the Blazers would have to give up more then Jack and and misc. pieces.