Kudos to Vince Carter

[jerseyjac]

This man has performed like an absolute professional in every sense of the word these last few games, hell, since the trade he has been doing what he has had to do to get this team some wins and in essence has increased his trade value, i may make a joke here and there but I have no problem with Vince Carter. Its a shame that he may be shipped out of here, when in reality we all know who needs to get shipped straight to HELL. If you don't have a clue, just look at my sig.

sad. SAD.

nice post...he definitely has performed...and deserves the credit and respect...

imo, some may just have to get used to the new, so-to-speak, Vince Carter...he's not gonna drop 30pts every night...though he is obviously capable of it on any night...I think he has been playing how we need him to play...giving us what we need (sometimes not need) on most nights...you are watching a player mature into an "older" NBA player while losing some atheletic ability...I believe its a transition for him, for us and for his career...this guy will be able to play down the road regardless of high he can jump...whether in a Nets uni or not...Vince just has that much talent and is too savy on the court...for those who feel he's not gonna be successful down the road, I think they'll be surprised of what we have already seen a glimpse of...

[vince-carter15]

Lets get Mike Miller in the offseason and A big who can score in the post

we can ship out boki, RJ, Stro, Ager, Hassell

sounds good right =D

[TheGrowth]

Trade him only if it benefits the team. He has been playing lights out of late and has definitely upped his trade value. I still think he is a better fit here than RJ.

[BigWil17]

Welcome to the Vince Carter era!

[S.I.C. GM]

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We really need to ship off RJ instead of VC. Who cares if RJ is younger.
VC is clearly the better player and he's shown that countless times.RJ is nothing more than a 2nd fiddle. he's expendable.

VC while cannot lead always can still carry this team. He makes players around him better and can pass better than RJ.

Sad.

Fools Gold.

Where was he early this year.

VC will continue to be who he is.

[Samuel]

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Sad.

Fools Gold.

Where was he early this year.

VC will continue to be who he is.

You do know that he hasnt been healthy till recently right?

[BIG FURB]

VC will continue to be who he is.

Yup, and that would be a far superiorr basketball player than RJ. Do you actually disagree with that? If so the only thing worthy around here is you

[dacher]

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You do know that he hasnt been healthy till recently right?

No. And I'm not buying it either.

It's the same VC we see every year, including in the playoffs.

I'm a skeptic with a memory.

[Adam1221]

We have to keep Vince, he seems to love the post Kidd era here and having "his own team"(unlike his days in Toronto this one offers him some help).
Here is my step by step guide to instantly bring back the Nets to elite status:

1.Try to one up Boston for every offer they give House and or Posey by 1m$ - the bench needs help and a spot on shoter(House) that we folishly alowed to go away because of a terrible signing(Magloire) and a good all around player(Posey) along with a resigned Diop would bring instant depth to this team.

2.Try to swing this deal:
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=4553913

Lets be honest with Frank staying here next year there's no point in holding Marcus and Sean, he'll never trust them or be able to unlock their talent so we might as well go with a win now approach and ship them out for an all star that can help this team sooooo much.
Clipers are clearly in all out rebuild mode and will appreciate 2 young studs.
Throw some picks if needed.

3.If we fail to sign house draft a shooter, I remember an Italian player with some amazing shoting ability entering this years draft forgot his name.

4.If Thorn fails to do any of the previous steps I guess we should go for these:
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=4553742
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=4553740

[Serpo]

I wouldn't do any of your trade but the one with Brand and i can't see him leaving the Clipps or the Clipps trading him.

Millers just not that much of an impact player AND i don't think he'd want to come off the bench . Trading for J.O is a risk i'd not like to make , i just can't see him EVER return to his former self to really help a team. He's been hurt just too long and his contract is too big .

And i don't see why Sean woulnd't get more burn next year he averaged 20+ minutes before he badly hit the rookie wall . ( remember he hasn't played more then 100 meaningful basketball games at all before this seaon )

He just hasn't recovered yet from it and most likely won't this year. He had his time to shine .

Marcus on the other hand he just has a hard time getting minutes here as a backup of players like Kidd and Harris . These two are/were just playing to well and he was too inconsistent to earn more minutes.


And one thing we can't trade KvH unless we pick up one of this team options . How stupid would that be ? Giving KvH another 4 Millions for doing nothing ....

[MrDollarBills]

Carter continues to make the case for him staying here and being one of the leaders of this team.

[etopn23]

I'm sorry but realistically, why would he stay? He left TDot once they were rebuilding - he's going to do the same to the Nets. Right now he is just upping his trade value.

How does he fit into this team's future? He's a great player who only has a few years of prime play left in him. He's going to ask to go to a contender.

If he sustains this level of play to the end of the season, the Nets should be able to get more for him than they got for Kidd. That's saying something.

[S.I.C. GM]

VC will continue to be who he is.

Yup, and that would be a far superiorr basketball player than RJ. Do you actually disagree with that? If so the only thing worthy around here is you

For a guy that has been around here for so long, this is the best you can do.

The idea that RJ isnt as superior as VC is the lamest argument. VC talent level is superior then RJ. This point is irrelevant when you dont use this "talent". So people here are relieved that VC has all of a sudden gotten back to his great player status in these last 20 games. All the VC supports arent even thinking--> Wait, what happened to the other 60. Oh Yeah!!! He was hurt with a sprain ankle. Ok that is why he hasnt performed to his "Superior Basketball Skills" If you want to swallow that, go right ahead. WoW! Wait a minute!!When you think about it for the past 3 years we made last minute runs to try to get in at the 8th spot. Interesting. I cant remember did VC always improve his game during those last 20 games too. Maybe someone here can remind me?

Anyway, VC play your best ball these last games, because I will be hoping and praying that Thorn gets something like what he got for Kidd.

[MrDollarBills]

If he sustains this level of play to the end of the season, the Nets should be able to get more for him than they got for Kidd. That's saying something.

I understand, but for whom? What trades are realistically out there?

[ViNNNsanity]

Anyone blaming VC for this season's loss is pathetic. The majority of his entire Net's carreer, he's been putting them on his back. The Nets don't win without VC, end of story. The guy plays hurt for over half the season, and you blame him for a lack of contribution? Whoelse on this team can make up for that? Not Kidd (a future HOF who posts near TD stats), not RJ (top 10 leading scorer this season), not this sorry excuse for a coach...no one. If anyone here has any sense of logic, it would be that this team (with or without VC) is flawed...and it sure as hell ain't Vince. Might as well want to trade away the entire team for not picking up the slack.

[jcrack32]

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All the VC supports arent even thinking--> Wait, what happened to the other 60. Oh Yeah!!! He was hurt with a sprain ankle. Ok that is why he hasnt performed to his "Superior Basketball Skills" If you want to swallow that, go right ahead. WoW! Wait a minute!!When you think about it for the past 3 years we made last minute runs to try to get in at the 8th spot. Interesting. I cant remember did VC always improve his game during those last 20 games too. Maybe someone here can remind me?

Anyway, VC play your best ball these last games, because I will be hoping and praying that Thorn gets something like what he got for Kidd.

If its easier for you to swallow that VC is just plain lazy and only plays when he wants, then by all means believe that. Logic tells me that his ankle injury which is a chronic issue has limited his play this year. It started with that game early in the season against the Celtics and I don't find it so hard to believe that it has still lingered. His numbers in November when he hurt the ankle were poor (as expected) but he put up his best numbers in December when he came back healthy. He had a little swoon in January where there were reports of his ankle swelling up again. After the all-star break though, he has come on strong. To expect him to play at the pace he has in the last 10 games for the course of the season is just unrealistic. He is not in the same class as Kobe or Lebron. I'm sure there are other factors that come into it too but to deny his injury being one of them is absurd. This idea that he decided to take the first 3/4 of the season off and then play hard the last 1/4 of the season makes no sense to me.

I don't see any reason to trade Carter unless we get a bonafide scorer in return. I think we overrate Carter at times on this board but he is still one of the best scorers in this league. If we trade Carter and don't get a scorer back, expect this team to bottom out for the next 2 years. If fans and management can stomach that, then trade him. Lets not fool ourselves into thinking that everything is gonna look up once we trade Carter.

[MrDollarBills]

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I don't see any reason to trade Carter unless we get a bonafide scorer in return. I think we overrate Carter at times on this board but he is still one of the best scorers in this league. If we trade Carter and don't get a scorer back, expect this team to bottom out for the next 2 years. If fans and management can stomach that, then trade him. Lets not fool ourselves into thinking that everything is gonna look up once we trade Carter.

+1.

[EFF]

We need vince and we're not getting anything worth anything for him. Therefore, he's staying and whether you like him or not you're just gonna have to deal with it.

His physical decline is just sad though haha. When he comes down the lane for a monster flush I want to cry when I see his vertical.

[MrDollarBills]

Carter's lack of explosiveness is being made up for in other areas though, but i do agree.

His all around game that he's developing has been pretty impressive.

[SpeedyG]

Still need better shooting. And as inconsistent as Boki is, he's still one of our better shooters.