I say we can't finish in the lottery!?!?

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #1 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:33 pm

With prospective wins over the following teams:

46 - @ LA Clips tonight 3/31
47 - vs OKC 4/8
48 - @ Port 4/12
49 - @ OKC 4/13 (Last game in Seattle?!?)
50 - @ NO 4/16 (New Orleans rests their starters)

This would also mean losses to Golden State, @ Fakers, @ Suns, and the Jazz

This would mean that Denver and Golden State would have to win 6 games each to knock us out and get them in...

But, judging by both Denver and Golden State's schedules, I say that each team can also only win 5 a piece. I believe this will put the Mavs in the 8th seed in the playoffs due to tiebreakers.

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Denver's prospective wins would go as follows:

46 - vs. Sac 4/5
47 - @ OKC 4/6
48 - @ LA Clips 4/8
49 - @ GS 4/10
50 - vs. Mem 4/16

They would lose to @ Pho, Pho, @ Uta, and Hou

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Golden State's prospective wins would go as follows:

46 - @ Dal 4/2
47 - @ Mem 4/4
48 - vs. Sac 4/8
49 - vs. LA Clips 4/12
50 - vs. OKC (final game as the Seattle Sonics) 4/16

They would lose to @ SA, @ NO, Den, and @ Pho

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My prediction is all three teams end up with 50 wins. Two end up in the playoffs and one ends up in the lottery... It looks like we will be going to the playoffs and we will be 1-14 against teams with a record .500 or better going into the playoffs (since the Kidd trade) all because New Orleans would rest their starters on the last game of the season... Otherwise, it would be 0-15... Wow...

dirkforpres · Post #2 » by **dirkforpres** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:39 pm

I can see New Orleans beating us while resting their starters, thats how much faith I have in the Mavericks at this point.

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #3 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:44 pm

It was a stretch, but I am erring on the side of logic trying to be a little bit more PG01, JES12, and DDansby-like.

dirkforpres · Post #4 » by **dirkforpres** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:47 pm

Also, doesnt Denver own the tie breaker? Maybe im wrong, but I thought I read that on another board.

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #5 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:50 pm

If 3 teams in different divisions finish with the same record what is the protocol for tiebreakers?

Edit: Here is the protocol...

b. More Than Two Teams Tied
(1) Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.
(2) Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if all tied teams are in the same division).
(3) Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.
(4) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
(5) Better net result of total points scored less total points allowed against all opponents (

TEAIM · Post #6 » by **TEAIM** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:03 pm

Denver has the tiebreaker on Dallas. We've won the season series 2-1.

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #7 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:08 pm

Conference Record would be the first tiebreaker in three teams not in the same division vieing for a playoff spot.

lukem005 · Post #8 » by **lukem005** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:10 pm

This is my first post on RealGM, (it is weird that I am doing it on the Dallas board however) I live in Denver and am a huge nuggets fan. I do think you are correct about us holding the tiebreaker over you ( I think we have a 2-1 advantage in the season). I do agree that GS has a chance at only winning five of those but i think we can win the six it will take. I think we will split these btb games with phx. also when we play utah towards the end we may be playing with the division at stake and we may pull off that rare win in utah.

After saying all of that I also hope you guys can get the eight seed because I would like to see the kidd experiment click at the right time and when you guys are playing together I enjoy your style of ball. I am also not a fan of GS or Don Nelson and Stephen Jackson.

NuclearPalsy · Post #9 » by **NuclearPalsy** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:19 pm

Man, I hope we tank for the lotto... Why do we want to get beat in the first round anyways?

sosafan70 · Post #10 » by **sosafan70** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:23 pm

This team just doesn't have any confidence in itself at the end of a game.

JES12 · Post #11 » by **JES12** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:57 pm

IMO, in order for Dallas to make the playoffs, Dallas needs to beat the Warrios on Wen and the Warrios need to beat Denver on April 10th.

Assuming that happens, the records with our current record + only those furture games wold be
Dallas 46-28 (3 way tie...4-3; Denver holding 2 way tie and Dallas holding 2 way tie over GSW)
Warriors 46-29 (3 way tie 3-5; GSW would be out during any tie situations))
Denver 45-29 (3 way tie 4-3 Denver making it in during any tie situations)

If Dallas loses to GSWs (or the Clippers tonight), I think I will just give up hope. Good noose is that Denver plays Phoenix, so tonight I am a Nash fan!

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #12 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:59 pm

I am not saying I want this team in the playoffs, I am saying it is pretty well fated for the playoffs.

JES12 · Post #13 » by **JES12** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:04 pm

your_dallas_mavericks wrote:I am not saying I want this team in the playoffs, I am saying it is pretty well fated for the playoffs.

I would not say we are "fated" to make the playoffs as we still have to beat Kamen and the return of Brand tonight. And the rest of our schedule is not a cakewalk.

planaria · Post #14 » by **planaria** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:14 pm

your_dallas_mavericks wrote:I am not saying I want this team in the playoffs, I am saying it is pretty well fated for the playoffs.

The playoffs war is much more deep than you

JES12 · Post #15 » by **JES12** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:17 pm

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=776629

87% ( 57/65) of realgm posters believe Dallas won't make the playoffs

sweet daddy · Post #16 » by **sweet daddy** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:24 pm

JES12 wrote:http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=776629

87% ( 57/65) of realgm posters believe Dallas won't make the playoffs

Make it 58/66. Not that I want that. That's just what I think is going to happen.

dirkforpres · Post #17 » by **dirkforpres** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:56 pm

NuclearPalsy wrote:Man, I hope we tank for the lotto... Why do we want to get beat in the first round anyways?

Thats what ive been saying... At this point of the season I would be upset if we made the playoffs, even though it wouldnt surprise me because Avery is going to try to do whatever he can to keep his job.

BassMaster · Post #18 » by **BassMaster** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:07 pm

9th Seed?
DAL
82% [ 67 ]
DEN
4% [ 4 ]
GSW
12% [ 10 ]

Total Votes : 81

Post #19 » by **DDansby123** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 4:38 am

I'm curious as to why several of you are hoping for the lottery this year. Obviously, losing out on the playoffs might make the FO more likely to make major changes, but that's really the only benefit I see. And if we blow it up AFTER getting our lottery pick, we're more likely to have to give away an even better pick in 2009 (which I believe would have no protection on it at all).

To me, it makes more sense to tank after we make the playoffs this season rather than before. Go into the playoffs with the mindset that if we don't get out of the first round, we're going to make major changes. Make those changes in the offseason, including dealing some bigger contracts for expirings and dealing better players for picks. Write off the 2009 season as a loss, finish with a bad record, and take a much higher pick in the 2009 draft.

I'm not saying we should tank anything, but if we're going to hope for a poor performance, it makes more sense to hope for it next season.

JES12 · Post #20 » by **JES12** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 9:10 am

I just noticed that we only have one back to back in April and they are winnable (is that how you spell that?) games at Portland and Seattle.

Warriors have one with Spurs/Mavs and the Nuggets have on with Rockets/Jazz in addition to the one they are in the middle of Suns/Suns.