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Post#441 » by queridiculo » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:52 am

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:then having defensive stoppers of the bench like McGuire, Stevenson and Blatche.

Scary.


What's scary is that you think of Blatche as a defensive stopper. He is just slightly better than Jamison. Not somebody I would count on as a stopper.
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Post#442 » by queridiculo » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:54 am

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It would have been nice to go with experience but Antonio Daniels was injured. Would you have had Mason in instead of Young?


Uh, I have no problem with Young getting the minutes he got.

I do however have a problem with him getting the ball on what was pretty much our last possession.
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Post#443 » by Kanyewest » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:58 am

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Uh, I have no problem with Young getting the minutes he got.

I do however have a problem with him getting the ball on what was pretty much our last possession.


Well, he was 10-15 up to that point. Butler had missed his last two shots. Jamison was nowhere to be found down the stretch. Plus it's not like the Wizards had a ton of time left on that possession since the shot clock was running down. And it was not a bad shot, it was identical to ones Young was making before.
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Post#444 » by queridiculo » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:05 am

There were 16 seconds left on the clock when the ball was passed to Young on the blocks. That's plenty of time.

16 seconds is enough time to clear out and force the defense to bring an extra man or to get a clear one on one drive. You have to put pressure on the defense and force them to play honest.

By taking a fadeway shot you're basically bailing the defense out.

Even if not seen in the context of this game, Young is not who you want taking this shot. You get the ball in your best players hands.
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Post#445 » by bulletproof_32 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:08 am

LyricalRico wrote:Also, am I the only one who thinks Blatche has regressed?


Well, I'm guessing AB had at least one good night in LA, unfortunately it was probably Saturday night. I mean an LA-5 would far surpass a Thomas Circle 10, without the hassle of Johnny Law.

Seriously though, I do worry about AB
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Post#446 » by Wizardspride » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:09 am

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As much as I can't stand the guy, Etan could have really helped us tonight.

Not to change the subject, but what about Etan
can you not stand?

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Post#447 » by Wizards2Lottery » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:14 am

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What's scary is that you think of Blatche as a defensive stopper. He is just slightly better than Jamison. Not somebody I would count on as a stopper.


He was leading bench players around the NBA in blocks at a time this year. I don't know what you consider a stopper but AB definetly has his defensive strengths and having a seven foot shot blocker with his wingspan is huge.

Hes what 22 and you've already given up on him. Take it easy, every player goes through these slumps in there careers. Too bad his came when we needed production the most.
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Post#448 » by Wizardspride » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:19 am

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He was leading bench players around the NBA in blocks at a time this year. I don't know what you consider a stopper but AB definetly has his defensive strengths and having a seven foot shot blocker with his wingspan is huge.

Hes what 22 and you've already given up on him. Take it easy, every player goes through these slumps in there careers. Too bad his came when we needed production the most.

Finally..a voice of reason. People on this site seem to turn
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Post#449 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:25 am

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



He was leading bench players around the NBA in blocks at a time this year. I don't know what you consider a stopper but AB definetly has his defensive strengths and having a seven foot shot blocker with his wingspan is huge.

Hes what 22 and you've already given up on him. Take it easy, every player goes through these slumps in there careers. Too bad his came when we needed production the most.


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Post#450 » by BruceO » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:33 am

I've always thought nick young has a beautiful game. I thought we had something special in him because i couldnt think of skilled shooting guards who had what he had, athleticism, that mid range, be able to score and have good size. Kobe is the only one I can think without any obvious flaws, other people have some, He played michael redd and had good results, michael redd is short and not very athletic, he played jamal who is small as well. Other players don't have his size, his potential speed and wing span. I think eddie knew what he was doing by drafting him. Eddie was getting the next shooting guard under his legacy... Allan houston..Ray allen...Michael Redd and maybe gil..and now Nick young. I think Nick has more tools that any one of those guys.

I'm fine with nick taking that last shot. I think his teammates are fine with it as well. It's only to get him ready. He will be an elite shooting guard. HE has an ability to mimic basketball moves and the ideal is to be able to acquire a way to thrive. The experience of shooting the last shot will only prepare him for the days when he'll be doing it efficiently
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Post#451 » by newslowsad » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:44 am

bulletproof_32 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Well, I'm guessing AB had at least one good night in LA, unfortunately it was probably Saturday night. I mean an LA-5 would far surpass a Thomas Circle 10, without the hassle of Johnny Law.


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Post#452 » by gowiz999 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:00 am

What the **** was Nick doing at the end of the game? I've never seen such **** in my life. Of course the Wiz would have won the game if they had the ability to rebound or play any defense at all.
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Post#453 » by closg00 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:31 am

JWizmentality wrote:I don't think I've ever been as pissed at BRENDA as I am tonight. Played like **** all game.


Yep, BRENDA was back last night and at the wrong time.
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Post#454 » by Spence » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:36 am

The Bullets went with the hot hand last night when they gave it to Nick Young down the stretch. They did that because their big-time clutch player is still on the shelf. If Gil plays in only the last 2 minutes of that game, the Bullets win. We've lost a number of games that way this year, when just a minute or two of Gil would have put us over the top. The fact is, the Bullets have lost this year letting Caron take the last shot several times. As much as I love Butler, he hasn't really proven to be a clutch player on the last possession. He's fine getting the ball in those situations, but he's not ideal. Gil is ideal. But he's not there so the Bullets went with the guy who did all the scoring in the 4th quarter. Seems like a decent decision to me.
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Post#455 » by closg00 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:45 am

Spence wrote:The Bullets went with the hot hand last night when they gave it to Nick Young down the stretch. They did that because their big-time clutch player is still on the shelf. If Gil plays in only the last 2 minutes of that game, the Bullets win. We've lost a number of games that way this year, when just a minute or two of Gil would have put us over the top. The fact is, the Bullets have lost this year letting Caron take the last shot several times. As much as I love Butler, he hasn't really proven to be a clutch player on the last possession. He's fine getting the ball in those situations, but he's not ideal. Gil is ideal. But he's not there so the Bullets went with the guy who did all the scoring in the 4th quarter. Seems like a decent decision to me.


Agreed, I bet its killing Gilbert to watch on the sidelines in those clutch moments. I hope he shakes off the rust on-time to play limited minutes in the playoffs(If he is cleared to play)
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Post#456 » by Ruzious » Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:26 pm

BruceO wrote:I've always thought nick young has a beautiful game. I thought we had something special in him because i couldnt think of skilled shooting guards who had what he had, athleticism, that mid range, be able to score and have good size. Kobe is the only one I can think without any obvious flaws, other people have some, He played michael redd and had good results, michael redd is short and not very athletic, he played jamal who is small as well. Other players don't have his size, his potential speed and wing span. I think eddie knew what he was doing by drafting him. Eddie was getting the next shooting guard under his legacy... Allan houston..Ray allen...Michael Redd and maybe gil..and now Nick young. I think Nick has more tools that any one of those guys.

He's coming along better than I thought he would - though he should never be compared in any way to Kobe. Not to be picky, but Redd is 6'6 and 215 - not exactly small for a 2. I'm not sure how much Redd was matched up against Young, but Redd's had a very uneven season and hasn't mentally shown up in a lot of games. I think Milwaukee would love to trade him. A good lesson learned from signings of guys like Redd and Larry Hughes - Don't sign very good shooting guards to humongous contracts. If they're not Kobe or McGrady or even Ray Allen, you'll regret it, because they're replacable at much lower costs. And signing them limits your other options.
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Post#457 » by nate33 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:49 pm

Redd doesn't look 6-6 to me. He looks more like 6-4. (I'm not disagreeing with you. Just saying some guys look shorter than they are. I think Nick Young looks a little shorter than his listed 6-7 too.)
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Post#458 » by Wizards2Lottery » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:20 pm

gowiz999 wrote:What the **** was Nick doing at the end of the game? I've never seen such **** in my life. Of course the Wiz would have won the game if they had the ability to rebound or play any defense at all.


Overreaction much. Nick Young was the one who kept us in the game fourth quarter and overtime.

That turnover wasn't even his fault. For some reason, the entire team was packed under the basket. There was no outlet pass for him to kick out, which he had expected. Someone totally screwed up that play and missed their respective assignment.

Like Bruce said, he has a unique skillset offensively. Once he adds a bit muscle to his size, there is no way teams will be able to guard him, especially with them focusing on Gilbert and Caron. Hes even silencing those who questioned his rebounding, passing and defense.

Hes going to be the best SG of the 07 draft (considering that Durant eventually movest to forward).
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Post#459 » by fishercob » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:48 pm

JWizmentality wrote:Hard to believe some people on this board wanted to trade Nick for nothing short of a ham sandwich before the season even started. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE :evil:


I'd still think long and hard about a Nick + Etan for Mike Miller trade. In all of our discussions of the kid, I never doubted that he was capable of a scoring performance like last night. It has more to do with my doubts about his overall game. If he can be a great 6th man soon, then great. I still have my doubts as to whether or not he can round out his game quickly enough for the team to take the leap.

Clearly though, worst case we're talking about a JR Smith type of player, and that isn't half bad for where he was picked.
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Post#460 » by fishercob » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:50 pm

Tough loss. The Lakers have some of the best depth in the L, and the Wiz witnessed it first hand.

Shame that the Wiz lost and Cavs won by such thin margins. We could be .5 games out of the 4th spot; instead we're 2.5. I think it's highly unlikley that we catch Cleveland at this point, and think we'll be better positioned to make the ECF if we end up in 6th.
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