Arenas- "I'll take a pay cut"

[miller31time]

If he doesn't opt out, he's going to make $12.8 million next season and then be a free agent. I don't believe for a second he's opting out to sign for less than $12.8 million (i.e. a pay cut). It looks like he's doing two things

1 - putting pressure on everyone for Jamison to stay in DC
2 - giving himself an out to leave DC if they don't

He's stated numerous times that he's opting out for longterm security. That's been his stance the whole time. Whether he feels he should receive a max contract or otherwise is up in the air. But so long as he gets a reasonable per year amount for the max number of years (plus the additional year Washington can add onto his contract that no other team can), I think it's very safe to say he's staying in DC for a long time.

[prekazi]

I like him anyway rich or richer, If there's any chance he can opt out and come to Cleveland I'll like him more.

[G35]

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He doesn't have an agent.

Well Agent Gilbert Arenas is telling Player Gilbert Arenas to STFU.........

[prekazi]

^LOL

[miller31time]

Well Agent Gilbert Arenas is telling Player Gilbert Arenas to STFU.........

It's not wrong of him to value winning, friendship and continuity of a franchise more than an extra million or two.

Poor financial move? Sure, but here's some food for thought....

The price of an agent could very well equal the paycut he is willing to take.

[Wizardspride]

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Since I'm not a relative of Abe Polin's and not in line to inherit any of his wealth, I think it's silly. Besides, Polin is a cheap, two-faced bastard. Look what he did to Jordan. Used him to sell seats for 2 years, then wouldn't even let him reacquire his share in the team.

I think you might want to do a little more research
into what Jordan was really about during his time
in Washington. It might give you a slightly different
perspective.

[G35]

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It's not wrong of him to value winning, friendship and continuity of a franchise more than an extra million or two.

Poor financial move? Sure, but here's some food for thought....

The price of an agent could very well equal the paycut he is willing to take.

You believe that after all his blogging about Iguodola and Deng? You believe that after he said he was going to whoever would pay him the most when he left the Warriors?

I used to think that players would save money if they didn't use an agent but the thing is it's not just about negotiating money. There are other things to negotiate.

Look at Devean George, nobody knew about that loophole where he couldn't be traded without his permission. I just think that there are details that someone who is an expert at negotiating would catch. I mean, I know Gilbert is a smart guy but he might miss something blogging about his contract negotiations.

http://jonesonthenba.blogspot.com/2008/ ... agent.html

Washington realizes that Gilbert might not be as valuable to them as he once was (or at least that

[miller31time]

You believe that after all his blogging about Iguodola and Deng? You believe that after he said he was going to whoever would pay him the most when he left the Warriors?

I believe my previous post in this thread addresses that...

It's not really a matter of believing him or not. It's a matter of understanding that Gilbert says whatever is on his mind at the moment he's being interviewed (or writing a blog, etc). He can say one thing, then do the exact opposite. He can write that, if he isn't cleared to play, he's going to crash his car into a wall.

He says these things because, whether he's joking or not, that's what he's thinking at the time. It doesn't make him any less sincere or a good/bad person. But people need to realize that everything Gilbert says, fun/insulting/good/bad/whatever, needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt.

This is no different. He may think that it's a great idea to take a paycut and give the remnants to Jamison NOW, but he may have something else on his mind when he's ready to start negotiating with Wiz management.

I used to think that players would save money if they didn't use an agent but the thing is it's not just about negotiating money. There are other things to negotiate.

Look at Devean George, nobody knew about that loophole where he couldn't be traded without his permission. I just think that there are details that someone who is an expert at negotiating would catch. I mean, I know Gilbert is a smart guy but he might miss something blogging about his contract negotiations.

I'm not saying it's a good decision on his part not to have an agent. If he had an agent, he'd have been informed that it is idiotic to opt out in a year when the only major player in the Arenas sweepstakes is Washington.

But then again, this (in my mind) speaks to how comfortable he is with this organization. He loves the players. He loves the area. He loves the fans. It's an offensive system that suits him to absolute perfection, and an environment that caters to what makes Gilbert "Gilbert". I'd say that he's so comfortable here that, barring an insulting offer, he's pretty much here to stay, and has had that belief for quite some time.

[G35]

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It's not really a matter of believing him or not. It's a matter of understanding that Gilbert says whatever is on his mind at the moment he's being interviewed (or writing a blog, etc). He can say one thing, then do the exact opposite. He can write that, if he isn't cleared to play, he's going to crash his car into a wall.

He says these things because, whether he's joking or not, that's what he's thinking at the time. It doesn't make him any less sincere or a good/bad person. But people need to realize that everything Gilbert says, fun/insulting/good/bad/whatever, needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt. .

Honestly that sounds just like a woman. Whatever, Gilberts grown he can do what he wants......

[miller31time]

Honestly that sounds just like a woman. Whatever, Gilberts grown he can do what he wants......

Gilbert's not one of the most accessible, interview-able, interesting, entertaining athletes for no reason. He's constantly saying things for a multitude of reasons that have no basis in reality.

[celticfan42487]

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Honestly that sounds just like a woman. Whatever, Gilberts grown he can do what he wants......

Miss NY says, I'm a grown ass woman and I can do what I want!!!


I'd like to see Gilbert go to PHIL

Miller,Areneas,Iggy,someone,Dalmebert

That's be a crazy team

[Blame Rasho]

Well he is kinda off... so this wouldn't surprise me.

[Cevap]

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It's not wrong of him to value winning, friendship and continuity of a franchise more than an extra million or two.

Poor financial move? Sure, but here's some food for thought....

The price of an agent could very well equal the paycut he is willing to take.

Do you honestly believe that he'll take a pay cut from his current salary in order to sign Jamison? I mean I'm sure it crossed his mind and he just blurred it out wihtout thinking but i doubt he'll do this....

[miller31time]

Do you honestly believe that he'll take a pay cut from his current salary in order to sign Jamison? I mean I'm sure it crossed his mind and he just blurred it out wihtout thinking but i doubt he'll do this....

Once again, I already addressed whether I think he will or will not earlier in this thread...

It's not really a matter of believing him or not. It's a matter of understanding that Gilbert says whatever is on his mind at the moment he's being interviewed (or writing a blog, etc). He can say one thing, then do the exact opposite. He can write that, if he isn't cleared to play, he's going to crash his car into a wall.

He says these things because, whether he's joking or not, that's what he's thinking at the time. It doesn't make him any less sincere or a good/bad person. But people need to realize that everything Gilbert says, fun/insulting/good/bad/whatever, needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt.

This is no different. He may think that it's a great idea to take a paycut and give the remnants to Jamison NOW, but he may have something else on his mind when he's ready to start negotiating with Wiz management.

[Cevap]

oh ok

[Wizardspride]

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Honestly that sounds just like a woman. Whatever, Gilberts grown he can do what he wants......

You wouldn't happen to be a Warriors fan?

[G35]

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You wouldn't happen to be a Warriors fan?

I like the Warriors, from the Bay Area.....

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

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I think you might want to do a little more research
into what Jordan was really about during his time
in Washington. It might give you a slightly different
perspective.

I'm a little busy with school to bother, but if you want to tell me in this thread, that's fine. I'm certainly not an off-court Jordan fan.

[BruceO]

The thing that Arenas or other players might be aware of or need to be aware of is what position they're negotiating from. A player like devaen george who might be moved by a team on a whim needs to add clauses that protect his bird rights and does other things for him. Basically have a representative to play hard ball and shop him around to whoever the highest bidder is. That guy gets you a good contract. People like Igoudala, Deng need one too cause they're still establishing value and trying to show what they are worth. Arenas did that this last contract already.
The thing about being a top tier player is you know what your value is. Arenas is aware what other players get, will be aware of all offers when he opts up and will be given a fair deal by washington. Not only that but he's willing to negotiate for less than his value in washington. Is this a bad move? Well he feels Antwan has helped his career. So he's helping Antwan on his last contract since he (Gil) has another contract ahead of him theoretically. If he never gets that contract he still has endorsement money which probably goes up the more success he and his teams has. Plus he feels he'll have done the right thing by the team and by antwan.
Bottom line is Gil is willing to negotiate with Washington. Even if he opts out I don't think he'll leave washington empty handed.
The only thing I'm pissed about is we now might be forced to keep antwan. I preffered having the option to or not keep him

[Wizardspride]

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I'm a little busy with school to bother, but if you want to tell me in this thread, that's fine. I'm certainly not an off-court Jordan fan.

Jordan was arrogant (no surprise).He alienated a lot of the
younger Wizards,and not to mention bad-mouthing Abe Pollin
behind his back. It probably wasn't the smartest thing to
do if he wanted to reclaim his team president role and
ownership stake.

Granted, he did clear money under the salary cap,so
I'll give him some credit. But basically,Jordan coming
out of retirement was about "Jordan" not the Wiz.

Oh yeah, he also hired a yes-man coach in Doug
Collins.