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Post#41 » by imgrindin247 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:55 am

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Everyone said the same thing about Morrison and JJ two years ago, and oddly enough they haven't been able to score against NBA level defenders either.


Morrison and Redick had way more help than Curry had. They each had 3 or 4 guys that could consistently put the ball in the bucket. Other than Curry, Davidson had nobody they could count on to score. He didn't shoot a good percentage today, but given the double and triple teams he was facing, I can't hold that against him. He also played the entire game while the Kansas players got rest and alternated guarding him. He actually missed some looks he normally makes, but they just didn't drop today.

I think Curry showed that he will be able to get off his shot in the League. He won't be asked to create shots for himself 1 on 1, but you run him off screens and he can get free to score against anybody.
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Post#42 » by imgrindin247 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:00 am

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Entirely possible. Let's keep in mind though that for the majority of the two years of which you speak, he wasn't the talk of college basketball. His stock has gone up as a result of the last couple of weeks, and so I don't think it's unfair to throw in some skepticism when his performance leaves some room to be desired.


Nobody talked about him, because people didn't get a chance to watch him play. There's no doubt he will be an NBA player in my mind, it's just a matter of how good he will be. Obviously he has his shortcomings, but I just think he's a smart enough player to realize that and improve upon them. If he were to not improve at all, I think he is at worst a player similar to Jannero Pargo or Juan Dixon.
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Post#43 » by Jonathan Watters » Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:38 am

Jesus, he only hit the contested 3-pointer than almost brought them back from a 6-point defecit at the one minute mark.

If that is a "disappointing performance down the stretch" I'd like to introduce you to -

Brandon Rush
Sherron Collins
Josh Shipp
DJ Augustin
AJ Abrams
Damion James
Connor Atchley
Earl Clark
David Padgett
Terence Williams
Edgar Sosa
Jerry Smith
Everybody on davidson except for the blond kid.

And pretty much everybody else not name Tyler Hansbrough or Sasha Kaun that played in the last two days...
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Post#44 » by amcoolio » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:25 am

Few things - since I am in a SoCon school and watched Curry extensively this season -


- he has grown 3 inches since finishing high school, so he is still growing. Maybe he has hit puberty late or something.

- he has the quickest shot and silkest form of anyone in college basketball and the best since Ray Allen was playing. You can't deny that, he catches and shoots in one motion and the defender barely has time to know whats going on.

-he played PG in high school, is the backup PG at Davidson when Richards was on the bench and will be playing PG next season when he returns. To say he has no "PG skills" is asinine.

-he is definitely not one dimensional. He is automatic from mid range and slashing inside with the ball, and makes a great percentage of shots beneath the basket. You all saw his few finger rolls and acrobatic layups in the past two games - he did that all season.
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Post#45 » by sh00n » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:48 am

I think after playing one more year he'll easily be a first round pick. He needs to fine tune his game a little and he'll be a Kevin Martin type player in my opinion.
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Post#46 » by K-Town King » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:20 am

Stephen Curry as great as he was in the tourney I see him being an Eddie House type player great scorer who will be a very nice contributing piece to a good team but he'll be moved around the NBA a lot.
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Post#47 » by giberish » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:28 am

He's said that he's staying at Davidson. As his family should be financially comfortable (given his father's NBA money) and his late 1st at best draft position this isn't a big surprise.

He can really help his NBA stock by showing he can play the point next year with Richards gone. Growing another inch or two wouldn't hurt either, or at least getting a little stronger at the same height. The downside is that Richards was the 2nd best player on the team, so Davidson might not be as good next year even with Curry back.
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Post#48 » by Teen Girl Squad » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:26 pm

Great move. Next year will prove IMO that he wasn't a one game/one tourney success.
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Post#49 » by amcoolio » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:54 pm

They won 25 games in a row and the first perfect season in the SoCon. I wouldn't say he is a fluke.
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Post#50 » by moocow007 » Tue Apr 1, 2008 6:09 am

With his big game ability, short stature, offensive firepower and moxie reminds me a bit of John Starks.
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Post#51 » by BubbaTee » Tue Apr 1, 2008 10:44 pm

Teen Girl Squad wrote:Great move. Next year will prove IMO that he wasn't a one game/one tourney success.


He wasn't a 1-tourney success this year.

Ask DJ Strawberry.
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Post#52 » by bigballa3jj » Tue Apr 1, 2008 10:52 pm

moocow007 wrote:With his big game ability, short stature, offensive firepower and moxie reminds me a bit of John Starks.



idk if curry could dunk on michael jordan tho.....
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Post#53 » by The Notic » Wed Apr 2, 2008 3:07 am

joeyyowee wrote:I could see his career going in the same direction as Kevin Martin's. They are both great scorers coming from the Southern Conference. Like Martin, Curry is projected to be drafted in the late first round. Curry and Martin are both great shooters who are great at moving without the ball. If you compare Curry's numbers with Kevin Martin's numbers at Western Carolina, you'll see that they are almost identical. The only thing that I'm worried about is that he's not as fast or athletic as Martin. He might have trouble scoring against the NBA's premiere defenders. I'd still select him in the first round though.



That's an absurd comparison. The conversation starts and ends with size and athleticism. Where Kevin Martin is supremely blessed (arguably the fastest player his size and above, excellent hang time and elite body control) and Curry (below average).
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Post#54 » by Greek » Wed Apr 2, 2008 1:18 pm

moocow007 wrote:With his big game ability, short stature, offensive firepower and moxie reminds me a bit of John Starks.


Starks was playing elite D, and was much much bigger. A realistic comparison for him is Salim Studamire. I am surprised that no one mention it. A small SG, with average athleticism, amazing stroke, with questionable PG skills. Sounds similar don't you think?
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Post#55 » by BrokenLeftyJumper » Wed Apr 2, 2008 2:25 pm

Curry could be very effective playing a Daniel Gibson type role in the NBA. I really wonder about his ability to play NBA defense with such a small frame though.
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Post#56 » by Greek » Wed Apr 2, 2008 2:36 pm

BrokenLeftyJumper wrote:Curry could be very effective playing a Daniel Gibson type role in the NBA. I really wonder about his ability to play NBA defense with such a small frame though.


Gibson is speedster don't forget that
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Post#57 » by Paydro70 » Wed Apr 2, 2008 2:44 pm

Greek: I favor the Stoudamire comparison as well. Curry shoots more than half of his shots from 3, and his assist rate is mediocre at best (for comparison, he passes approximately as much as Rashad McCants did at UNC... aka exactly like a shooting guard), and he's small, frail, and with mediocre athleticism.

Lets also keep in mind how much of a volume shooter he is. Sure, Davidson played well against UNC, but he shot less than .400 because he bricked TEN 3pters. Sure, they didn't get blown out by UCLA, but he shot less than .333. They beat Georgetown, but he shot less than .400. And now they've lost to Kansas, as he goes down with 36% shooting from the field.

Curry played 6 games against really good college teams (UNC, Duke, UCLA, Wisco, GTown, Kansas) and shot badly to very badly in 4 of them. So what are we really talking about? That he can shoot a crazy number of 3's, and dominate the Southern conference?

He'll clearly play in the NBA, because he has an A+ skill in his 3pt shooting. But there's really no reason right now to think he's a PG at the next level unless it's in the Gibson role, and therefore he's probably no more than a 20mpg scorer.
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Post#58 » by nyhuskyfan » Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:26 pm

BMF Jet Jaguar wrote:and curry is like 10x better than boobie in college.

he didn't want the last shot...disappoints me


He wanted the last shot. He up faked Rush and was trying to step underneath him for a wide open look. It was just bad luck that Richards was making his cut right at that moment and brought his man (Collins) in to the play. When Curry stepped underneath Rush, Collins was right there to shut him off and the pass to Richards was really the only play he could have made.

In hindsight, if Richards has stayed in the corner, Curry would have had a shot to win the game because Rush was so worreid about his quick release that he bit on the fake instantly.

That's why I think Curry will make a great pro in the right system and with the right teammates (i.e. with a bigger point guard). He's every bit the shooter Redick was (and then some), but he's much, much more clever at getting his shot off and his release is so lightning quick that it sets everything else up for him.
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Post#59 » by nyhuskyfan » Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:39 pm

Paydro70 wrote:Lets also keep in mind how much of a volume shooter he is. Sure, Davidson played well against UNC, but he shot less than .400 because he bricked TEN 3pters. Sure, they didn't get blown out by UCLA, but he shot less than .333. They beat Georgetown, but he shot less than .400. And now they've lost to Kansas, as he goes down with 36% shooting from the field.

Curry played 6 games against really good college teams (UNC, Duke, UCLA, Wisco, GTown, Kansas) and shot badly to very badly in 4 of them. So what are we really talking about? That he can shoot a crazy number of 3's, and dominate the Southern conference?

He'll clearly play in the NBA, because he has an A+ skill in his 3pt shooting. But there's really no reason right now to think he's a PG at the next level unless it's in the Gibson role, and therefore he's probably no more than a 20mpg scorer.



He shoots a high volume, but he's 44 percent for the season (an exception percentage) - against teams that throw everything but the kitchen sink at stopping him (the Southern Conference lacks talent, but they also throw every box-and-one and gimmick defense in the world at him, which he would not have to worry about at the next level with four other people who can score on his team). Kansas also was having all sorts of problems defending him until they decided to go with a box and one early in the second half and were able to slow him down. So the best team in college basketball basically conceded that they couldn't defend him straight up and went to junk to stop him. That's talent.

Gonzaga is also a very good college team that he scored 30 against. He completely took the Georgetown and Wisconsin games over in the second half - and became virtually indefensible by two of the top defensive teams in college basketball. If you stare at a box score and don't watch the games, maybe you aren't impressed.
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Post#60 » by Paydro70 » Tue Apr 8, 2008 5:15 pm

I appreciate the last sentence... I like everyone else watched the tourney. He was fun to watch, but I don't see how the Kansas game made you think he was destined for anything more than roleplayer status in the NBA. If his 3-ball isn't falling, which apparently happens about half the time against really good opponents, then what is he? A sub-.400 shooting guard.

Unless he learns to play point, he'll be a major liability on defense, undersized and with moderate athleticism, and therefore pretty much a one-weapon player.
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