Atlanta/Toronto Game Clock Error?

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Atlanta/Toronto Game Clock Error? 

Post#1 » by One of Shemps Kids » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:34 am

Thanks Atlanta time keepers for screwing the Raptors from a game winning basket. Thanks.


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Post#2 » by 5DOM » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:35 am

boston should be careful when they face the hawks in the playoffs
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Post#3 » by NetsForce » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:35 am

Haha! Suckers!!!

I have 4 fantasy players between those 2 teams! NetsForce wins!
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Post#4 » by Raptor_Guy » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:36 am

Boston should be careful, the Hawks scorekeepers might have Garnett fouling out in the 1st quarter.

Seriously. **** them. 2nd time in 2 years they're screwed the Raptors out of a win.
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Post#5 » by Duffman100 » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:37 am

Raptors HAVE to appeal this.
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Post#6 » by N1QUE24 » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:38 am

Can this game be overruled? Like seriously.. this is pissing me off.
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Post#7 » by NO-KG-AI » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:39 am

Details for those of us who for whatever stupid reason decided to not watch this battle of the juggernauts.

Seriously, what happened, this is getting ridiculous.
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Post#8 » by Bucs80 » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:40 am

N1QUE24 wrote:Can this game be overruled? Like seriously.. this is pissing me off.


I have no idea.....

I think the last .5 seconds would have to replayed again.....

But I doubt Atlanta would let Ford go to the basket like that again.
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Post#9 » by 5DOM » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:40 am

i dont think its going to be outruled.

it's really hard to start the clock at the right time anyway.
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Post#10 » by One of Shemps Kids » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:43 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:Details for those of us who for whatever stupid reason decided to not watch this battle of the juggernauts.

Seriously, what happened, this is getting ridiculous.


0.5 seconds left, game tied. Carlos Delfino inbounds the ball to underneath the rim for an alley-oop layup for TJ Ford. The refs review the play, and say the ball was still it was still in TJ Ford's fingertips as he layed it in. The Raps tell the refs to check if the clock was started early, they say it wasn't. The Raps TV crew replays the play, a play with a clear view of TJ Ford, the ball, and the game clock over the backboard and it clearly shows the clock started before the ball even touched TJ Ford's hands.


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Post#11 » by garvy » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:43 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:Details for those of us who for whatever stupid reason decided to not watch this battle of the juggernauts.

Seriously, what happened, this is getting ridiculous.


essentially, TJ hit a game winning alley-oop layup with 0.5 s to go. 'Cept the clock started before he even caught the ball so the basket was overruled.

It's not the ONLY reason for the loss, but it's pretty significant.
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Post#12 » by oomalay » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:44 am

Basically they threw an alley-oop to TJ Ford with 0.5 seconds left. but they started the clock before the ball hit his hands (aorund 0.3-0.4s was left when his hands touched the ball). The ball went in but it was at his finger tips RIGHT when the buzzer went off. So those extra 0.1-0.2 seconds definitely would've made the difference.
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Post#13 » by 5DOM » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:44 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:Details for those of us who for whatever stupid reason decided to not watch this battle of the juggernauts.

Seriously, what happened, this is getting ridiculous.


0.5 seconds left in the tied game, raptors ball.

delfino throws an alley oop pass from out of bounds, ford makes the layup.

the timekeepers started the clock early, and the shot didnt count (the clock was already past 0.4secs mark even before tj touched the ball)
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Post#14 » by xAIRNESSx » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:44 am

For those that don't know the story, Raptors were up by 3 and Bibby tied it with .5 seconds left. Raptors called a timeout and did an alley-oop layup to TJ Ford, which went in, but was overturned because it was 0.1 seconds too late. But looking at the replay again, you see the clock started early and the play clock was at 0.4 seconds before TJ even touched the ball. Refs say no basket, game goes to overtime, Raptors lose.

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Post#15 » by Bballer2306 » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:44 am

5DOM wrote:i dont think its going to be outruled.

it's really hard to start the clock at the right time anyway.


Agreed, but they started the clock WAY to early.

I can understand not starting it EXACTLY, but they started the clock while the ball was still about a meter away from TJ. Not acceptable, and quite frankly, Atlanta Hawks have something funny going on in their arena.

This is now the 4th game they have cheated to get a win, not them personally, the scorekeepers/refs.
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Post#16 » by draft » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:45 am

The clock already started and it was at 0.3 when TJ caught it.
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Post#17 » by N1QUE24 » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:45 am

One of Shemps Kids wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



0.5 seconds left, 1 pt game in Atlanta's favor. Anthony Parker inbounds the ball to underneath the rim for an alley-oop layup for TJ Ford. The refs review the play, and say the ball was still it was still in TJ Ford's fingertips as he layed it in. The Raps tell the refs to check if the clock was started early, they say it wasn't. The Raps TV crew replays the play, a play with a clear view of TJ Ford, the ball, and the game clock over the backboard and it clearly shows the clock started before the ball even touched TJ Ford's hands.


Ummm no?

0.5 seconds left.

It was Delfino at halfcourt who threw a zinger to the rim, Childress (guarding Ford) got caught up in a screen and let Ford glide to the rim, catching the ball mid air and instantly releasing it to the rim. Once he caught the ball it was already 0.4 seconds. How is that possible?
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Post#18 » by magicfan4life05 » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:47 am

this is the 3rd time they did this

time keepers are cheaters...against the heat, they screwed raps last season and again this season


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Post#19 » by Buck You » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:47 am

That really is ridiculous. Bunch of morons running the Hawks' scoring system.
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Post#20 » by One of Shemps Kids » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:47 am

N1QUE24 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Ummm no?

0.5 seconds left.

It was Delfino at halfcourt who threw a zinger to the rim, Childress (guarding Ford) got caught up in a screen and let Ford glide to the rim, catching the ball mid air and instantly releasing it to the rim. Once he caught the ball it was already 0.4 seconds. How is that possible?


*Delfino


Besides that, what did I say incorrectly?
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