AK must go....

[BiggMann]

AK is a valuable piece to our team, i hope everyone agrees with me there.. Some of the things he can do for us cannot be matched by any one player... but we've got to step back and take a look at the big picture. Boozer, Memo and AK already have large contracts.. .and Deron will follow shortly. We simply CANNOT carry all four of those contracts. If we take Deron away our team is far weaker, if we take Memo away Boozer feels the pressure from the double teams, if we take Boozer away Derons production will fade. AK is the odd man out, and with CJ playing great it will make the transition that much easier.

... i just hope we dont unload him for garbage, like Memphis did with Pao.

[TaylorJ]

Yeah, I think AK is the odd man out, the question now becomes what can the Jazz get for him? We don't want any of our other surrent starters moving to the bench, so that means if we want a starter for him we look at the 2 or 3 (Brewer could move to the 3 for us). The problem with that though is we already have a logjam of guys at those 2 spots and next year Almond should be getting some time up here as well. If the JAzz feel good about CJ I could see them trading AK for a back-up big and expirings/future draft picks. If not, we may see AK involved in a trade with one of our young guys for a starting 3 and filler. I think it could go either way although I personally like CJ and would like to see AK traded for some solid interior defense (unless we're getting back a stud 2/3 - not likely)

[CAE15]

If Ak is in a package it better include one of these guys; Almond, Collins, Harpring, Hart.

I just dont see Almond doing anything for us. If we opt to keep Almond over CJ i'll be a little upset.

[BiggMann]

I just dont see Almond doing anything for us

...what brought you to this conclusion? I've always thought that once we have room for him (bye hart) he'll be a valuable player off the bench. I mean he's dubbed as the D-League version of Kobe Bryant, scored 50+ TWICE this season, not to mention he's the type of player that will fit in perfect with what we are trying to create. He's a great scorer, average defender and he's willing to listen to what the coaches are asking of him.

I will be INFURIATED if CJ, Ronnie, Milsap or Almond are involved in any trade. Right now the players on our team that can be traded with minimal effect to team chemistry is Jason Hart, Jarron Collins and Andrei Kirilenko. If we could somehow package those three for a defensive big, expiring contract and a future pick say 2012 i would be all for it.

an Eastern conference team has to be our trading partner though, i DO NOT want to see AK in the west where he can cause havoc against us.

[CAE15]

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...what brought you to this conclusion? I've always thought that once we have room for him (bye hart) he'll be a valuable player off the bench. I mean he's dubbed as the D-League version of Kobe Bryant, scored 50+ TWICE this season, not to mention he's the type of player that will fit in perfect with what we are trying to create. He's a great scorer, average defender and he's willing to listen to what the coaches are asking of him.

He just seems at the very best a Redd type player and I dont think sloan wants that. to me he just seems to want to score and thats about all. And he may have put up good stats in the d league true but so have guys like marcu banks and are you saying you want banks on our team? Just my gut, CJ is more athletic and longer and can slash and shoot. I just dont see almond getting to the hoop, I see him much more of just settle for his jumpshot.

[The Sheik]

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He just seems at the very best a Redd type player and I dont think sloan wants that. to me he just seems to want to score and thats about all. And he may have put up good stats in the d league true but so have guys like marcu banks and are you saying you want banks on our team? Just my gut, CJ is more athletic and longer and can slash and shoot. I just dont see almond getting to the hoop, I see him much more of just settle for his jumpshot.

read the key bolded word...so you dont know if any of what you said is true. Till he shows that after 2 yrs dont say anything.

Im sure you said the same thing about CJ till about December.

[Ascheier]

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He just seems at the very best a Redd type player and I dont think sloan wants that. to me he just seems to want to score and thats about all. And he may have put up good stats in the d league true but so have guys like marcu banks and are you saying you want banks on our team? Just my gut, CJ is more athletic and longer and can slash and shoot. I just dont see almond getting to the hoop, I see him much more of just settle for his jumpshot.

Please. Almond has already driven to the rack and drawn fouls for us. He's played 15 minutes in the NBa and you're already positive he just settles for jumpshots. You = idiot.

[CAE15]

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Please. Almond has already driven to the rack and drawn fouls for us. He's played 15 minutes in the NBa and you're already positive he just settles for jumpshots. You = idiot.

Already positive? I said he seems like IMO. He just doesnt rub me as a player who is going to attack and try and score. I dont think he will develop right on the Jazz.

[DelaneyRudd]

If Almond gets traded I won't complain. So far KOC cast offs haven't impressed me. Even Pavlovic who was forced off by expansion isn't really a player I would see really contributing.

[The Sheik]

If Almond gets traded I won't complain. So far KOC cast offs haven't impressed me. Even Pavlovic who was forced off by expansion isn't really a player I would see really contributing.

Kris Humphries has gotten a little better. He is still a blackhole on offense, but his rebounding and D have been good for Toronto.

Deshawn has turned into a starting level talent at the 2.

Everyone else is garbage.

[DelaneyRudd]

But even those 2, it isn't what the Jazz need. We benefited by cutting off the relationship.

[The Sheik]

But even those 2, it isn't what the Jazz need. We benefited by cutting off the relationship.

I agree, Millsap is a better fit and Brewer has a higher ceiling then Deshawn.

[eyejayem]

I was just wondering after the Jazz almost traded AK for Ben Wallace with Chicago before Cleveland got him, is management still considering Ben due to Deron's contract coming up or would they still consider him?

I think AK would be great in the East but paired with Lebron may be great but I think that AK would be back to form on any team in the East depending on who would take him.

[CAE15]

I was just wondering after the Jazz almost traded AK for Ben Wallace with Chicago before Cleveland got him, is management still considering Ben due to Deron's contract coming up or would they still consider him?

I think AK would be great in the East but paired with Lebron may be great but I think that AK would be back to form on any team in the East depending on who would take him.

If you believed that rumor you also probably fell for Horny signing a 10 day contract on april 1st.

[Duiz]

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Kris Humphries has gotten a little better. He is still a blackhole on offense, but his rebounding and D have been good for Toronto.

Deshawn has turned into a starting level talent at the 2.

Everyone else is garbage.

???

Mo Williams was given a huge contract to be the starting PG on his team. Gordan Giricek helped revitalized an aged former contender. Arroyo is the backup PG for the 3rd seed in the Eastern Conference. Jacque Vaughn has been the backup PG for the championship team spurs.

How about Aleksandar Pavlovic who has been phenomal starter for the Cavaliers who won the Eastern Conference finals. Kings currently are salivating over their revatilized starting 5 due to Mikki Moore's great defense and fair offense. Kirk Snyder shined bright when given the chance by Oklahoma City Hornets.

Andre Owens among others are pretty much garbage.

Raul Lopez is doing great with Real Madrid again by the way, but not even close a Calderon, Rodriguez or Navarro level.

[eyejayem]

Sorry if I hurt your feelings New Jazzy Nets but I was talking to real basketball enthusiasts. It was a question that only you seem to have come up with a corky answer all by yourself, which I applaud. But the fact of the matter is that the question still wasnt answered.

And out of respect I always liked AKs game even when people in Utah wanted him out and still want him out for not being "mentally" tough. And his value was almost at its lowest last season so it was very feasable but it was more than rumored a month before the trading deadline before all the big trades that went down piled dirt on top of it.

With that said I still think he would be superb in the East no matter what team he goes to because I think he can do what Josh Smith does but better due to the smaller East and AK's capability to play PF. His Salary is double what his production says and any team taking him is banking he can go back to form so it is still a tough play. But the amount left on his contract and Deron's contract issues coming up, fair value is tough.

[The Sheik]

but it was more than rumored a month before the trading deadline before all the big trades that went down piled dirt on top of it.

No offense friend, but the purposed AK deal for Ben Wallace was farce. We had no intention of trading for Ben Wallace. Sam Smith is arguably the worst sports writer in basketball. Not saying the Jazz wont trade AK, but not for Ben Wallace, especially straight up with no prospect or draft pick involved like Smith proposed.

[loserX]

And out of respect I always liked AKs game even when people in Utah wanted him out and still want him out for not being "mentally" tough. And his value was almost at its lowest last season so it was very feasable but it was more than rumored a month before the trading deadline before all the big trades that went down piled dirt on top of it.

Yes, AK's value was at its lowest LAST season. Since then, it's gone up...and it's NEVER been as low as Ben Wallace's was this season. Chicago brass and fans were dancing in the streets when they got Larry Hughes for him...so I'd imagine that's not a guy the Jazz were considering trading AK for.

You are right that getting fair value for AK will be very tough. He's a complimentary play who gets paid like a star, and has several years left on his deal. But there's no way we trade him for an almost equally expensive guy coming off an atrocious season (read the Bulls' board for a thread marking him as having one of the worst offensive seasons in NBA history) just so we can save some money 2 years from now.

[DelaneyRudd]

If Marion had a longer contract the Jazz would have pulled that trigger, but being over the cap they couldn't replace Marion with an equal player if he bolted.

[eyejayem]

Thank you for the insight guys. Just needed a little explaining. Seriously Jazz is probably my favorite team in the West and hope your post season is fruitful.