Friday 04/04/2008 - Game Thread

[Kobay]

is Lamar Odom the least appreciated player by his own team fans?
Only other guy i can think of is Amare....

Its been what 70 something games? When you have gasol and kobe feeding you, you better make your shots. Ontop of that ur getting 14 mil. You gots to be kiddin me.

[MT1983]

is Josh Howard the biggest choker in the NBA?..

Odom's hate on the GB seems mostly from fans that want to elevate Kobe even higher when it comes to value to his team and MVP talk..of course it probably goes deeper on the Lakers board, and they obviously must have their reasons..

I was just about to say this. Is Odom a tad inconsistent? Yeah. But the dude is a consistent 15/10/4/5 guy. He'd EASILY be the second best player on a team like the Cavs. Hell, he might even be the second best player on the Hornets.

[Griever24]

I think its more that Laker Fans haven't forgotten all the dumb plays he's made the previous 3 years ... where was all this when Kobe was busting his a** to make the playoff's ... i appreciate Odom now but im just not sure if he keeps this up .. I hope so though

[The MVPlaya]

Haven't Laker fans lightened up on LO since the Gasol trade? Let's face it, Odom wasn't giving the Lakers what they needed as a #2 option. Any hate that he got was probably warranted. However, there would be no reason to complain now, it's KNOWN that he's played his best basketball as a Laker since the trade.

Odom played awesome, finished everything. Gasol played awesome, great passing. Kobe played awesome, patiently passing out of the double teams.

Lakers truly stole this game tonight.

[JDawg]

People are funny.

1) Kobe is the MVP of this game even.

Forget Odom. Without Kobe on the floor at the end, they dont get layups and open shots....

Double teams dont happen to Gasol and Odom and they are likely NOT to get open layups as one guy is getting DOUBLED 40 feet from the hoop.

2) Vlad is a POS. He's the classic player who plays well when he shoots well. When he doenst. HE's the biggest sieve EVEr.

[B-Scott]

is Lamar Odom the least appreciated player by his own team fans?
Only other guy i can think of is Amare....

Yes

There has been games where Lamar has gone 7-10 from the field and because he misses that 11th attempt with 2 minutes remaining in the game, fans will say trade him because he did not finish 8-11. It's funny sometimes.

On another Laker forum there hoping he gets traded for Kirk Hinrich and Nocioni.

As if either can play PF if Gasol or Bynum goes down with a injury

[RobertGlory]

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I was just about to say this. Is Odom a tad inconsistent? Yeah. But the dude is a consistent 15/10/4/5 guy. He'd EASILY be the second best player on a team like the Cavs. Hell, he might even be the second best player on the Hornets.

i'd have him behind paul and stojakovic, assuming he's replacing west, if not, west is better than him too. i think chandler is getting overrated though

[ChocolateThundr]

Kobe fans discredits Odom to enhance Kobe's MVP chances, and yet everyother player fan overvalues Odom to lessen Kobe's MVP chances lmao

And The MVP Playa speaks the truth. Alot of Laker fans, not Kobe fans, have noted his major improvement recently. HarlemHeat (I think it is you), please actually read the Laker forum and you can see we actually had a couple of Lamar appreciation threads recently. And alot of Laker fans who disliked Odom for his inconsistency has resciended that opinion. As long as Odom doesnt get any pressure to produce, he's a tremendous player, as shown when he plays as the 3rd option.

[B-Scott]

Put Lamar on the Hornets where they run pick and rolls and Chris Paul has the ability to get inside the paint at will and Lamar would have a lot more games like he did tonight.

Lakers rarely run pick and rolls with Lamar like they should. He's a very good finisher around the basket. He might night finish with a monster dunk like Amare,but he's a very good finisher off the pick and roll.

I think Lamar puts up better stats with Chris Paul, then Peja

[JDawg]

I misquoted myself.

Odom played a great game...dont get me wrong.

But Kobe's 27,10 and 6 DO NOT do justice to his impact on this game.

I hope people realize that.

His sharing the ball and letting teammates get it going and make things happen CANNOT be understated.

His MERE presence is what allows this team to do what it does.

And yes, the bench helped us make a comeback tonight. But out of 10 times, how often does that happen. 2 times maybe.

Come on now. The Hornets have a very good bench too. Pargo, Bonzi, Ely and Julian Wright arent trash guys. They'd fit in wiht the Lakers JUST FINE...trust me on that.

[JDawg]

Put Lamar on the Hornets where they run pick and rolls and Chris Paul has the ability to get inside the paint at will and Lamar would have a lot more games like he did tonight.

Lakers rarely run pick and rolls with Lamar like they should. He's a very good finisher around the basket. He might night finish with a monster dunk like Amare,but he's a very good finisher off the pick and roll.

I think Lamar puts up better stats with Chris Paul, then Peja

NOT really BScott because David West has a KILLER MIDRANGE jumper...which is something Laker fans have been clamoring for Odom to get FOREVER>

You know this too...I dont know why you alwasy HIde it. Admit it and you'll become more appreciated for not being bias.

[MT1983]

People are funny.

1) Kobe is the MVP of this game even.

Forget Odom. Without Kobe on the floor at the end, they dont get layups and open shots....

Double teams dont happen to Gasol and Odom and they are likely NOT to get open layups as one guy is getting DOUBLED 40 feet from the hoop.

2) Vlad is a POS. He's the classic player who plays well when he shoots well. When he doenst. HE's the biggest sieve EVEr.

You're a joke. Just grab your Kobe dildo and never post again.

[Big Bird]

Odom has been playing very very well these past two months.

He has not been consistent enough to be called a great player for the past 3 years, though. So take that for what is worth.

If he continues this up, I'll be the first to say that he shouldn't be traded.

[Iggyemu]

Kobe fans discredits Odom to enhance Kobe's MVP chances, and yet everyother player fan overvalues Odom to lessen Kobe's MVP chances lmao

And The MVP Playa speaks the truth. Alot of Laker fans, not Kobe fans, have noted his major improvement recently. HarlemHeat (I think it is you), please actually read the Laker forum and you can see we actually had a couple of Lamar appreciation threads recently. And alot of Laker fans who disliked Odom for his inconsistency has resciended that opinion. As long as Odom doesnt get any pressure to produce, he's a tremendous player, as shown when he plays as the 3rd option.

Yep that pretty much the crux of the situation.

[Big Bird]

Btw, this is a thread of the year for B-Scott that and the GSW 20/20/5/5 one. Knock yourself out, man, knock yourself out.

Lakers win, baby!

[CB4MiamiHeat]

Sasha should start at point guard. hes great on D, and thats the biggest problem for the Lakers, perimter D.

[The MVPlaya]

But Kobe's 27,10 and 6 DO NOT do justice to his impact on this game.

I hope people realize that.

This is true though. Odom and Gasol made great plays but Kobe made it all happen in the first place drawing the doubles and patiently passing out of them, he was the quarterback. Played some great defense tonight too.

[MT1983]

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i'd have him behind paul and stojakovic, assuming he's replacing west, if not, west is better than him too. i think chandler is getting overrated though

Behind Paul? You're kidding. Just joking. I'd rate him over Peja for sure. Peja does one thing well. It's up for debate between West and Odom. Odom would no doubt see his ppg go up a little due to Paul's incredible playmaking. Look what he's done for Tyson I have no offensive game whatsoever Chandler.

[B-Scott]

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NOT really BScott because David West has a KILLER MIDRANGE jumper...which is something Laker fans have been clamoring for Odom to get FOREVER>

You know this too...I dont know why you alwasy HIde it. Admit it and you'll become more appreciated for not being bias.

Lamar and West are two totally different styles

On the pick and roll, West might stop and pull up for the 12 foot jumper which is more of a pick and pop. Lamar might catch off that pick and roll and instead of settling for the jumper, attack and finish and get a and 1.

Lamar is also a better passer then West. If you run a pick and roll with Lamar and Chris Paul. You can have Lamar set the screen and roll. Paul will deliver the pass to Lamar cutting to the basket.

If the SF comes to help out, Lamar becasue he is unselfish,will simply kick to Peja for the 3. Lamar looks to score or pass on the pick and roll.

Perfect example is that last play with Gasol. Gasol's man came to help out and Lamar made the quick dish for the and 1. Tyson Chandler would get a lot of open dunks because of Lamar's passing ability inside.

[MT1983]

Sasha should start at point guard. hes great on D, and thats the biggest problem for the Lakers, perimter D.

Maybe coming off the bench for stretches at a time. As a starter? He'd be eaten alive.