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Would Mo accept a 6th man role in Milwaukee?

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Post#1 » by showtimesam » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:34 pm

I ask this question because PP brought up in another thread the fact that Woelfel thinks that Mo may prove difficult to move.

In that case its imperative to move Michael Redd. However, I don't think the bucks can win with Mo running the point guard position, and I also don't know if he'd accept a sixth man role here since he was paid big money to be our starting point guard.

So lets say that Mo proves to be a team player and accepts this role, how should we build the bucks for next season?
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Post#2 » by Buck You » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:39 pm

If we acquired a point guard that Mo had respect for and that he would feel comfortable being behind, yes.
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Post#3 » by showtimesam » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:40 pm

Here's my scenario:

STEP ONE
Bucks send:
Michael Redd
Dan Gadzuric
Awvee Storey

Bucks Recieve:
Wally Sczerbiak (expiring)
Anderson Varejao (big body F/C)
Aleksander Pavlovic

STEP TWO
During the draft we get lucky and land OJ Mayo.

STEP THREE
The Bucks should look into using Sczerbiaks expiring deal to package CV along with him and upgrade the small forward position.

Now we're looking at this roster heading into the season:

Sessions/Mo
Mayo/Mo/Pavlovic
Good Small Forward/Simmons
Yi/Varejao
Bogut/Varejao

I'm not sure what small forwards are out there but I would think a Wally/CV deal would be enticing for a team looking to cut some salary. At the very least we free up money to resign Bogut if Wally can't be sent out to bring in a small forward. Then Simmons/Pavlovic can man the three spot.

All of this means nothing though if MO can't accept a 6th man role getting 25-30 minutes a night.
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Post#4 » by showtimesam » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:42 pm

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:If we acquired a point guard that Mo had respect for and that he would feel comfortable being behind, yes.


The thing is, Sessions already provides the qualities that a pg on the bucks needs (defense, team play).

Plus if Mo would accept the role, on nights sessions is struggling we have a big time scorer that can come in and run the show.

If Mo's a team player, he'd see that Sessions should be the one orchestrating the offense.

This would allow mo to do what he does best and the bucks would benefit greatly.
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Post#5 » by Johnny Newman » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:42 pm

Why everyone want a expiring contract? Isn't like we gonna land a superstar with capspace here. Had to over pay for Bobby Simmons. I rather take on contracts and give away our expiring's in the future.
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Post#6 » by jeremyd236 » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:43 pm

showtimesam wrote:Here's my scenario:

STEP ONE
Bucks send:
Michael Redd
Dan Gadzuric
Awvee Storey

Bucks Recieve:
Wally Sczerbiak (expiring)
Anderson Varejao (big body F/C)
Aleksander Pavlovic

STEP TWO
During the draft we get lucky and land OJ Mayo.

STEP THREE
The Bucks should look into using Sczerbiaks expiring deal to package CV along with him and upgrade the small forward position.

Now we're looking at this roster heading into the season:

Sessions/Mo
Mayo/Mo/Pavlovic
Good Small Forward/Simmons
Yi/Varejao
Bogut/Varejao

I'm not sure what small forwards are out there but I would think a Wally/CV deal would be enticing for a team looking to cut some salary. At the very least we free up money to resign Bogut if Wally can't be sent out to bring in a small forward. Then Simmons/Pavlovic can man the three spot.

All of this means nothing though if MO can't accept a 6th man role getting 25-30 minutes a night.


That's your dream scenario or best case? Is your goal to get back into the lottery? That team would be lucky to win 26 games. Any team starting OJ Mayo, Sessions, and Yi next year is going to get demolished.
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Post#7 » by showtimesam » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:43 pm

Johnny Newman wrote:Why everyone want a expiring contract? Isn't like we gonna land a superstar with capspace here. Had to over pay for Bobby Simmons. I rather take on contracts and give away our expiring's in the future.


Because it makes it alot easier to swallow resigning Bogut to a big money contract, and also adds flexibility to bring in veterans that may help through the mid level exception.
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Post#8 » by drew881 » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:47 pm

I don't think Mo would accept a 6th man role. Especially not behind Ramon Sessions, no matter how well he progresses. Not behind Rose (if we won lottery) either, unless he came in and was Deron Williams or Paul like.

That said, I think Mo would be a good 6th man, ginobili type player off the bench, (minus the size unfortunately). However, I think if we did play him 6th man off the bench, we have to do it split at pg and sg minutes, which means getting rid of Michael Redd, in favor of a SG who plays defense.

This is why I like that Pacers trade that I brought up in other threads (CV, Redd, Gadz for Marquis Daniels, Dunleavy and Murphy)

First Unit:

Sessions, Bell
Daniels, Mo
Dunleavy, Mason, Simmons
Murphy, Yi
Bogut, ?

EDIT: Our draft pick would have to be worked in here somewhere as well

This would allow us to play a first unit that could rebound up front and defend the 1,2 positions, and then switching to the bench, we could score with Mo and Yi hitting jump shots, and Mason and Bell providing the defense.

Not sure if the pacers would do it, but I would welcome this trade.
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Post#9 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:51 pm

This team needs a new starting PG......that would be priority one for me in the offseason....

Then I'd see what the best deals were for Mo or Redd and make decisions on whether to keep Mo based on that.

I'd modify that Cav's deal and go Mo for Varajao if they'd do that.
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Post#10 » by showtimesam » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:56 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:This team needs a new starting PG......that would be priority one for me in the offseason....

Then I'd see what the best deals were for Mo or Redd and make decisions on whether to keep Mo based on that.

I'd modify that Cav's deal and go Mo for Varajao if they'd do that.


I think we got him, Ramon Sessions baby!
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Post#11 » by midranger » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:58 pm

If we aren't trading Yi, we aren't bringing in a starting PF.

To answer the original question, it's tough to say. We've seen nothing to suggest that he would at this point, nor have we seen anything to suggest that he wouldn't. He would be a dynamite 6th man, and I hope he knows that.
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Post#12 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Apr 5, 2008 5:04 pm

showtimesam wrote:-= I think we got him, Ramon Sessions baby!


I'm just not comfortable with putting a ton of eggs in Ramon's basket so soon but can understand why people are optimistic. I suppose you could live with Ramon starting next year if you kept Mo as sixth-man and you also then spent your trade assets (Redd, CV, lotto pick) to really address the problems we have at:

SF: We have none
PF: We have two offensively minded soft guys
SG: We have no athleticism or defense there

Or if we could swing a Mo for Haslem deal and then drafted Collison as the starter/backup PG then I'd go with a Ramon/Collison backcourt.
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Post#13 » by xTitan » Sat Apr 5, 2008 5:08 pm

The answer is he would absolutely NOT accept that role on this team and unless some GM comes in who is in love with him I don't see him on this team next year unless he really is untradeable.
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Post#14 » by Johnny Newman » Sat Apr 5, 2008 6:21 pm

I could see us going small ball alot in a run and gun offense.
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Post#15 » by fam3381 » Sat Apr 5, 2008 7:57 pm

The PG situation is a two-part question:

1) Do we want to trade Mo?
2) Do we commit to Sessions as our primary PG?

I think many people conflate 1 and 2, but I feel more strongly about the former than the latter. Mo's had a while to show us what he can do, and I don't see his style ever being a great fit for the rest of the team. It changes a bit if Redd were to be traded, but my assumption is that Mo would be a little easier to move at this point.

The fact that Sessions has the potential to be a starter only makes the decision to trade Mo easier, but I think we've seen that if you have Redd you don't need a scoring PG anyway.
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Post#16 » by Fort Minor » Sat Apr 5, 2008 8:05 pm

midranger wrote:If we aren't trading Yi, we aren't bringing in a starting PF.

To answer the original question, it's tough to say. We've seen nothing to suggest that he would at this point, nor have we seen anything to suggest that he wouldn't. He would be a dynamite 6th man, and I hope he knows that.


No doubt about that.


The thing is, we don't really know what kind of ego the guy has...but my gut reaction guess would be "hell no."
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Post#17 » by Epicurus » Sat Apr 5, 2008 8:11 pm

Don't know if Williams would accept 6th man role, but why not do it for the rest of this season? Start Sessions and see what you now have and see how Williams responds. What is there to lose?
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Post#18 » by LISTEN2JAZZ » Sat Apr 5, 2008 8:28 pm

Johnny Newman wrote:Why everyone want a expiring contract? Isn't like we gonna land a superstar with capspace here. Had to over pay for Bobby Simmons. I rather take on contracts and give away our expiring's in the future.
So that we can keep Bogut and our future draft picks.
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Post#19 » by Dags » Sat Apr 5, 2008 8:59 pm

Epicurus wrote:Don't know if Williams would accept 6th man role, but why not do it for the rest of this season? Start Sessions and see what you now have and see how Williams responds. What is there to lose?


I would say that maybe it'd hurt his trade value. But perhaps other GMs would value him more as a 6th man than a starting PG, so they'd be interested in how it works out.

In the end if Sessions is going to get >25 mpg for the rest of the season then it doesn't hurt to start him - at least that way the Bucks can say it was partially to test Mo off the bench rather than to just reduce his minutes in favour of a D-league rookie.
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Post#20 » by Neapolitan Buck » Sat Apr 5, 2008 10:22 pm

I'd like to see sim play a 6th man/combo-guard role, with Redd playing Sf when the opponenta allow you to play him at 3, but we should find a way to acquire a PG with defensive ability to have a Sessions-Mo-Redd-X frontcourt.

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